Man gets 30 days for rape of 14 year-old

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    It should be noted that he didn't actually "accept a deal" in the way that we normally think (pleading guilty or no contest). The treatment program was part of a "deferred prosecution" agreement. There is a material difference between the two.
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    The judge gave him 30 days because he got kicked out of the treatment program, but joined another. Reviewing the facts, and after 2.5 years in the program (July 2010-November 2012), plus the psych evaluation, plus the harmless nature of the reasons for getting bounced from the program, 30 days is what the judge reasoned to be fair.

    The headline of the story is misleading. The guy got 30 days for violating his agreement. He got 3 years of treatment as penalty for the rape charges. Blame he guys who gave him the deal.

    The girl committed suicide before the deal was made, too. Taken into account.
     
  3. bluefrog

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    This judge sounds like an idiot.
     
  4. Mediocre Man

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    Wow, a judge that doesn't know the law is not a good sign for that town
     
  5. maxiep

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    I love how the judge blames his ignorance of the law on the lawyers.
     
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    That judge should know sentencing guidelines for serious crimes such as rape (he should know all sentencing guidelines but rape is a big one). At the same time, what kind of prosecutor doesn't know the sentencing guidelines for rape and why did they not mention that at the hearing. This whole court sounds like a kangaroo court . . . and they are handling serious felony cases?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    [video]http://youtu.be/y0O7_3o3BrI?t=23s[/video]
     
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  8. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    150,000 manhaters signed a petition to allow a lesbian to commit statutory rape. If a man does it, he gets years in prison. Once out, he is unemployable and usually lives in the street for his remaining few years.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/23/justice/florida-teen-sex-case/index.html

    During her Facebook campaign, she repeatedly violated court orders to stay away from the child. She complained that men aren't punished, and that she was being discriminated against. She refused 2 plea bargains before whittling it down to no felony. Ever heard of a prosecutor doing that? So she was let off with only 4 months in jail. She will not be a felon.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/02/justice/florida-gay-teen-kaitlyn-hunt-case/
     
  9. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    The thread story about the man was near the top of Google and Bing news for a couple of weeks, trying to get us outraged. It resulted in a review of the case. This new case about the lesbian and her "cause" will be out of the news in a day.
     
  10. BLAZINGGIANTS

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    One, because she's a cute high schooler.

    Two, because she's female.

    Three.... If we could all recall out senior years of HS and the seniors hooking up with the frosh.... Many of us would be felons.

    Not saying it's right. Just saying I'm not surprised. But this is a much different case than the original subject.
     
  11. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    No, Reason #1 was that she started a Facebook campaign and got the usual alliance of lesbians and manhaters together. Usually, the religious sexhaters join such alliances, but not when it's so explicitly gay as this "cause."

    As for her being cute, the hundreds of teen males who go to jail each year for statutory rape, for voluntary sex with girlfriends, are equally cute and that doesn't help them.
     
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    Agreed on point one. But don't be ridiculous on your second point. Cute girls always advance further than boys in a man's world.

    Not saying it's right, but it's always been that way.
     
  13. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    We agree that "The law is an ass," as Charles Dickens put it.
     
  14. BLAZINGGIANTS

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    True. But it comes with it being a "man's world".

    I suppose we're losing that grip, but everything falls behind at a delayed pace.
     
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    Funny, that's what Obama said to Boehner yesterday.
     
  16. Mediocre Man

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    This has a chance to be an epic war of words depending on the stance of a certain individual here
     
  17. BLAZER PROPHET

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    Read it and I fully agree with the State. That gal should accept the plea deal, get some serious counseling (as any sex offender should) andtry and learn from this.
     
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    The "lesbian committing stat rape" was 18 and had been in a relationship with a high school classmate for over a year. Both sets of parents knew. When the older girl turned 18 (I think the younger was 16 then) the younger girl's parents charged her with stat rape. She was dragged out of school in handcuffs, expelled, and charged with a felony. Many states have what are called "Romeo and Juliet" laws, where if two teens are in an established relationship and are within 3 years of each other's age, it is a misdemeanor. These laws were, if not started, at least picked up steam, when an 18 year old got his 15 year old girlfriend pregnant, was ready to marry her, when the girl's parents charged him with statutory rape. He got some very long sentence, I forget how many years, and after his release would not be allowed to have contact with her or their child. The judge was very unhappy, many jurors were in tears, but the law as written allowed nothing else. Hence the change in laws. Unfortunately in most states those laws apply only to heterosexual couples. Although I suppose anyone who points that out is a "manhater". Had this 18 year old girl been a boy, she might have gotten probation. As it was, she got a "deal", but no high school diploma and she has to register as a sex offender. Great future for an 18 year old, expelled from school, registered sex offender.

    Evidence that the 150,000 were manhaters? Oh, none needed, of course. I mean, why let facts get in the way when you can just insult women? And men, who also signed?

    This has absolutely zero to do, of course, with a 49 year old man repeatedly raping a 14 year old girl and anyone who has an ounce of sense would see that. Still, why let facts get in the way? Contempt for women can deprive males of their senses, assuming those "men" had any sense to begin with.

    So, all of your rape apologists, answer this one. Did Jerry Sandusky get a raw deal? After all, it was just statutory. Not a "real", "beat them up" kind of rape. Just statutory. Not "legitimate" rape. Just statutory. And many of the boys had repeated encounters, wasn't that a relationship? Should Sandusky have gotten 30 days?

    Or is Sandusky's real crime that he treated boys the way only girls and women should be treated by raping them?
     
  19. Denny Crane

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    The man in the OP didn't get 30 days for rape.

    He was given a plea bargain several years ago, even after the girl committed suicide.

    The same sort of plea bargain this girl is getting.

    The 150,000 manhaters remark? I took that as him mocking anti-gay kinds of statements we see and don't like.
     
  20. Mediocre Man

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    She has to register as a sex offender because she is one.

    I saw a story a while back about an 18 year old female high school senior who made a poor choice by giving her 17 year old boyfriend a hand job in class during a movie. She was charged with stat rape. neither one of them was homosexual.

    Talk about playing the victim card....Oh poor lesbians. this only happened because they are gay. Give me a fucking break
     

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