I love how u throw LeBron's name in there when your talking about Steals.Did u know James D is the weakest thing about him?
how the F*ck u love watching AI and he missing more than 50% from his shots hes good very good deffender and fast and good playmaker but take alot of stupid shots and miss all of them secondly manu doing very good for san antonio 16 PPG and 1.7 steals per 27 mins thats cool and Yeah u remember when manu was hurt for 8 games I remember spurs went 4-4 without him u guys need to stop overrated people and Yeah as I saied denver will suck with AI trust me
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cavsrules @ Jan 9 2007, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why do u think A.I will want the ball?No one has seen him play with any stars on his team.Smith is going to be huge in Denver, short of like a Manu with the Spurs. He is going to be the guy most people will not think he will get the ball. But I am sure Melo and A.I know this. Smith is going to be playing a huge part. Wait and see.</div>so he's never gonna shoot again?? a.I. to be great needs a lot of shoots, he isn't a good shooter, and the only reason he scores is cause he shoots 40 times a game (I know it's not 40 but I'm just saying) to get his pointsmelo is the only player on that team that can have a huge impact without the ball in his hands....u may not think a.I. doesn't need to ball, but for him to be effective he really doesand j.r. smith has been so inconsistent his whole career and even the little bit that he's played with denver, I don't see how you think he's gonna all of sudden change and be a manu type player, there's a reason he's becoming the village bycicle of the nba....3 teams in 3 years, he didn't play for the bulls though, but he was still traded twice...and don't get me wrong, I do like the three players here, but they are not going to win a championship anytime soon....not with teams like the suns, mavs, and spurs still way ahead of them.......hell I don't think they can even beat a healthy rockets team in a 7 games series
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (koopa @ Jan 9 2007, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>so he's never gonna shoot again?? a.I. to be great needs a lot of shoots, he isn't a good shooter, and the only reason he scores is cause he shoots 40 times a game (I know it's not 40 but I'm just saying) to get his pointsmelo is the only player on that team that can have a huge impact without the ball in his hands....u may not think a.I. doesn't need to ball, but for him to be effective he really doesand j.r. smith has been so inconsistent his whole career and even the little bit that he's played with denver, I don't see how you think he's gonna all of sudden change and be a manu type player, there's a reason he's becoming the village bycicle of the nba....3 teams in 3 years, he didn't play for the bulls though, but he was still traded twice...and don't get me wrong, I do like the three players here, but they are not going to win a championship anytime soon....not with teams like the suns, mavs, and spurs still way ahead of them.......hell I don't think they can even beat a healthy rockets team in a 7 games series</div>No, A.I will still get his shots in and he will still drop 2-25 PPG. Melo will add in 20+ also. and JR around 15 PPG. Now, that is unlikely to happen, but it is what I am guessing.The reason I said Smith is like Manu because he plays the same roll. He is going to need to step up and make those shots, in order to help out Denver.Denver is going to be one of the toughest teams in the NBA. Thats if ever thing goes the way it is planed.
koopa, how do you know for sure AI is never going to win another championship? I bet you're one of those guys who bet one-dimensional players like Jason Williams (showboat, inconsistent, TO prone, 40% shooter), Antoine Walker (trigger-happy, no defense) would never win a ship. And, if this is all you can say about J.R.:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>and j.r. smith has been so inconsistent his whole career and even the little bit that he's played with denver, I don't see how you think he's gonna all of sudden change and be a manu type player, there's a reason he's becoming the village bycicle of the nba....3 teams in 3 years, he didn't play for the bulls though, but he was still traded twice...</div>... then you haven't been watching J.R. play this season. At all. Period. He's been anything but inconsistent this season... he's our most consistent three pt shooter, our most reliable second scorer... When Melo returns, I bet you're one of the people who'd say "J.R. wouldn't get a single shot off with Melo and AI commanding the ball so much." Watch and you'll see how valuable J.R. is to these guys spreading the defense with his outside shooting. I think he will even play a more crucial factor than ever. On the other hand, the Nugget that I suspect will take the hit the most on Melo's return will be Boykins. He'll be back on the bench and he wouldn't be asked to carry the scoring load to win games for us anymore... and that'd suck for him because he loves to keep that role. Eventually he's going to be traded because of his contract situation.
well they wouldn't have never won a championship if it wasn't for the refs cheating the mavsalso your a nuggets fan, you are to bias on this, the nuggets will not win a championship anytime soon, and a.I. is almost done, he has maybe 2-3 years left in him, and there's just to many teams that will be better then the nuggets....the suns are way better than them, the mavs are way better than them, the spurs are better than them, and a healthy rockets team is better than them......the nuggets can not hang with any of those teams in a 7 games series......I'm not saying melo won't ever win a ring, but a.I. will not win a ring in the little bit of career he has left.....I guarantee youI looked at jr smith game by game thing and that's why I say he's inconsistent, he has a few 2 point games and sh*t.....he's been good this year, but I don't see him keeping it up on a regular basis.....from what I heard in the past he's not a hard worker....and with less shots coming his way I just think he's gonna get bored and go back to his old self
How on earth do you know all those teams are better than Nuggets when we haven't played a single game with Melo-AI-JR together... not to mention Camby and other guys? I am not saying the Nugs will win a championship this season either, but to say AI will never win a championship is judging the book by its cover... you never know how the Nuggets are at full strength. I'm not saying they'll be better than those teams either... but on the same token, there's no certainty here they'll be worse. Secondly, J.R. will get his shots. AI and Melo are more mid-range scorers, so what'll happen is the defense will collapse in the middle and that opens things up for the outside shooters... and J.R. will benefit the most. He too can run fastbreak with the best of them... J.R. will be our main catalyst in executing the break.
it's called logic.....the nuggets can not win a seven game series against these guysalso you haven't seen them three play either, it could end up being the worse combination in nba history.... but even if it does work out, two guards and a small foward can't win you anything in the nba, maybe get you to the second round but they can't get past the three teams that I mention, and possibly can't even get past a healthy rockets team in the playoffs
^No it's called going to your own little crystal ball/ cheap city fortune-teller and come in and post it here. I never said they're going to be a sure-fire top West team either... please read my post. 2 guards and 1 forward cannot win anything? How about Magic, Worthy and Byron Scott (deadly 3 pt shooter)... they also had Kareem but he was old and he should be as effective as Camby of now. - MJ, Pippen, Ron Harper? - Billups, Rip, Sheed/ Tayshaun? Not all championships are won by Shaqs'/ Olajuwons' teams.
ok, totally different era here buddy, and don't ever ever compare a.I. melo and smith to that of mj pippen, magic, worthy, any of them, that's a slap in the facealso, they got to play together first before you can even think of competing for a championship...you can think of the playoffs, but saying they are gonna win it all should be completely out of the picture because again they have never been on the court togetherand I said small foward, so bringing sheed in this is pointlessand the pistons that year had such great team chemistry and had an all around great starting 5 and a good bench and were playing a lakers team that was falling apartthe nuggets don't have that great of a starting five, camby is good but y'all have no power fowardand again you don't know how the chemistry of this team will play outso there is were the logic should kick in.....and of course the suns mavs spurs and rockets are still better than them and will continue to be for the next 4 or 5 years, in which by then a.I. will be nothing more then a has been and probably out of the leagueyour nuggets will not win a championship in the next 5 years....they ain't good enough
Manu is a great player and thankfully he has been on a tear as of late. I think that if he continues this play that he could be an all-star taking Tony Parkers spot from last year.Another thing, the nuggets will not win an NBA championship anytime soon because they do not have a reliable big man. Marcus Camby is a great defensive big man but he is just very very injury prone and nobody can expect him to play more than 65 games in a season or be as productive as he can be in a playoff series. I compare the nuggets to the Wizards cause they both have 3 great scorers but they arent going to win a 'ship anytime soon.
tony will not make the all star and either will manu.....a.I. coming to the west has changed everything when it comes to the all star.but it's a good thing that parker doesn't make it, his ego is getting bigger and bigger by the day, the last thing the team needs is him making it again....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (koopa @ Jan 9 2007, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>but it's a good thing that parker doesn't make it, his ego is getting bigger and bigger by the day, the last thing the team needs is him making it again....</div>Amen to that, he thinks he is the one that has to take the clutch shots in the close games when he should definately give it to Tim.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (koopa @ Jan 10 2007, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ok, totally different era here buddy, and don't ever ever compare a.I. melo and smith to that of mj pippen, magic, worthy, any of them, that's a slap in the facealso, they got to play together first before you can even think of competing for a championship...you can think of the playoffs, but saying they are gonna win it all should be completely out of the picture because again they have never been on the court togetherand I said small foward, so bringing sheed in this is pointlessand the pistons that year had such great team chemistry and had an all around great starting 5 and a good bench and were playing a lakers team that was falling apartthe nuggets don't have that great of a starting five, camby is good but y'all have no power fowardand again you don't know how the chemistry of this team will play outso there is were the logic should kick in.....and of course the suns mavs spurs and rockets are still better than them and will continue to be for the next 4 or 5 years, in which by then a.I. will be nothing more then a has been and probably out of the leagueyour nuggets will not win a championship in the next 5 years....they ain't good enough</div>Comparing Melo, AI and Smith to those guys isn't a slap in the face at all... what are you talking about. AI alone has enough legacy in him to be compared with those "legends"... add Melo a future HOF himself and J.R. who doesn't sound bad when you're talking about "Ron Harper", "Byron Scott".I admit we don't have a low-post scorer... but so were the Bulls championship teams (Rodman, Longley) who were the dynasty in the 90s. I'm not saying, again, that we are DEFINITELY going to win it all this year, but I'm saying we have a chance as opposed to your idea of "they won't... period.".
again, different era....you can't win like that anymore.....what isn't sinking in??? and everyone has a chance if we use your logic.......the spurs don't even have a legit chance to win it anymore, and they are better than the nuggets are....that is why I say they will not win one with a.I. there.....not cause he won't be a bad teammate or anything, it's just that there is to many teams that are betterand yes, comparing a.I. to mj is a slap in the face, a.I. may have scored a lot his whole career but he hasn't done half the stuff mj has done for this leagueand same with melo and pippen, melo is a very very good player, and will eventally win a championship (just not in this 5 year time frame that I'm giving a.I.) but melo has yet to do anything worthy of being compared to pippen other then he scores a lot and has taken his team to the first round each year he's been in the leagueand smith he can't be compared to anyone cause he has yet to be a good role player, sure he was having a great year, but he F*cked that up when he decided to go after that midget nate
^Sounds like a personal vendetta to me (against J.R.)Different eras? So? You're the one who brought it up:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (koopa @ Jan 10 2007, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>also you haven't seen them three play either, it could end up being the worse combination in nba history.... but even if it does work out, two guards and a small foward can't win you anything in the nba, maybe get you to the second round but they can't get past the three teams that I mention, and possibly can't even get past a healthy rockets team in the playoffs</div>What's wrong with showing you those teams with 2 guards and a small forward won championships? Don't tell me our era is better because you can't compare eras, and thus you can't say which is better or worse era.
And it's not about comparing which group is better. I never tried to say that Melo-AI-JR is better than MJ-Pippen-Harper... I'm just saying if the latter could win a championship the former can too with the right chemistry because they definitely have talent.
I didn't say you said they would be better but you are bringing them up like they could be on their level and to me that's falsealso our teams play tomorrow, if y'all win please don't come here and say, see we can beat y'all because the second game of a back to back for us isn't the same as playing us in the playoffs
And on a related note I don't want to see Grass saying that the Spurs will sweep the Nuggets if SA wins tomorrow considering Denver still will not be at full strength. I know you realize that koopa, but I'm not so sure Grass' brain is fully functional.
