Marc Stein's Power Rankings

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  1. jbbKing James

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    (Expect a PM from me riot)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Riot_Starter:</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG] Do the Cavs deserve respect though? Don't hate on Portland when you worship a team consisting of an overhyped child, an injury waiting to happen, a former Duke player who has yet to live up to expectations, and a guy who's main goal is to make sportscenter's top 10/fill out a stat line.
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    Boozer has exceeded everyone's expectations. No one expected a 2nd round draft pick to average 10ppg & 7.5rpg while shooting at .536

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Riot_Starter:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Seriously though, they're better than every team in the east (Nets and maybe Pistons are the possible exceptions). The Rockets have no business being at 11, they didn't do anything in the offseason.
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    The Rockets didn't have to do anything in the offseason in order to improve. (Example: The Suns' roster didn't change much this summer and they're #8). The fact that Yao is one year older and more experienced is improvement enough.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting slamduncan21:</div><div class="quote_post">The Rockets didn't have to do anything in the offseason in order to improve. (Example: The Suns' roster didn't change much this summer and they're #8). The fact that Yao is one year older and more experienced is improvement enough.</div>

    Do you really believe your first comment (the one I bolded)? Teams generally don't get worse during the offseason, so explain to me why the Rockets moved ahead of teams that actually made improvements. I could go on with this argument, but I'd rather hear your response first.

    As for your Suns argument, do you honestly believe that they belong where they are?
     
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    JVG will get yao involved more, the kid needs touches. He can score and is a great passer from the post. Throw it to Ming, and then CUT.

    As for the Suns, I will be watching Amare Stoudemire to see if he worked any on his mid-range game, because he stinks inside of 12 feet when he can't dunk it. He is young, he has time to improve his game.

    Playoffs for both of these teams in my opinion.
     
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    I think with the recent trade the Suns drop down a few spots. Now Zarko is injured (should be ready for the start of the season but ya never know...). They were too high to begin with and these rankings overall are horrible anyway.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">As for the Suns, I will be watching Amare Stoudemire to see if he worked any on his mid-range game, because he stinks inside of 12 feet when he can't dunk it. He is young, he has time to improve his game.</div>

    Expect a little improvement in that area because with the surgery (toe I believe it was) all Amare could really work on was his shot.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting sunsfan1357:</div><div class="quote_post">Expect a little improvement in that area because with the surgery (toe I believe it was) all Amare could really work on was his shot.</div>

    Yes it was the toe. Amare said that the toe was injured all last season, and now he claims to be 100% for the first time. I can't wait to see him play, I believe the Cavs play @ your place week 1.
     
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    Yep. Second game of the season for the Cavs. Gonna be on national TV too. I'm gonna have the VCR rollin for that game.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting sunsfan1357:</div><div class="quote_post">Yep. Second game of the season for the Cavs. Gonna be on national TV too. I'm gonna have the VCR rollin for that game.</div>

    I think you will see lots of highlight material in that game buddy.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wave:</div><div class="quote_post">Then you lost your money. Posey starts.</div>

    Well well aren't we confident. Person starts at off-guard, Miller starts at SF as he's just signed a 6 year extension. Posey is 6th man - good defensive man to come off the bench
     
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    Posey's career to me has went south a bit, I don't believe he has earned to start..on any team. He gets lost out there and has been too inconsistent.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Riot_Starter:</div><div class="quote_post">Do you really believe your first comment (the one I bolded)? Teams generally don't get worse during the offseason, so explain to me why the Rockets moved ahead of teams that actually made improvements. I could go on with this argument, but I'd rather hear your response first.

    As for your Suns argument, do you honestly believe that they belong where they are?</div>
    I still stand by what I said. Yao has bulked up, the media will die down a little, and he'll probably get more touches. Their roster didn't change, but it didn't need to. As long as Yao gets the ball & Stevie Franchise gets his share of shots, the Rockets will improve and make the playoffs.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting slamduncan21:</div><div class="quote_post">As long as Yao gets the ball & Stevie Franchise gets his share of shots, the Rockets will improve and make the playoffs.</div>

    We'd all like to think that, but it can't be that simple. All last year people were saying that Yao should touch the ball AT LEAST every other posession. I'm not saying that I disagree, but if Rudy didn't implement it, there must be something he saw that we didn't.

    Besides, Yao isn't used to playing with people who can guard him. He's used to shooting literally 75%, and having his way in the paint. In China his post game was probably considered elite. He hasn't fully adjusted to an offense with as much outside shooting as the Rockets'.

    The Rockets could make the playoffs, but I still don't see them as 11th in the league.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Riot_Starter:</div><div class="quote_post">We'd all like to think that, but it can't be that simple. All last year people were saying that Yao should touch the ball AT LEAST every other posession. I'm not saying that I disagree, but if Rudy didn't implement it, there must be something he saw that we didn't.

    Besides, Yao isn't used to playing with people who can guard him. He's used to shooting literally 75%, and having his way in the paint. In China his post game was probably considered elite. He hasn't fully adjusted to an offense with as much outside shooting as the Rockets'.

    The Rockets could make the playoffs, but I still don't see them as 11th in the league.</div>

    i agree with riot...the rockets could make the playoffs...but they're not number 11...

    with Yao bulked up, let's see if he can create more space for himself...

    btw, im part of the starting 5 for the month of September???cool...what's the reason?
     
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    this list is joke
     
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    [quote name='Riot_Starter']He hasn't fully adjusted to an offense with as much outside shooting as the Rockets'.
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    yao was the center focus of his team in china. and was surrounded by outside shooters...well, practically his whole career in china, and in the NT. so that couldnt be the case. you could argue tho that the Rockets had NO outside shooting whatsoever last season. steve, cuttino can create their own shots, but they are not spot up shooters. the only spot up shooter on the club was rice, who was in terrible shape, and subsequently spent quite a good deal of time on the ir, or with numerous DNPs. I think having the offense run through yao this season will yield uncanny results with added mobile shooters in jackson and piatkowski.

    i think that the 2 biggest positives for this team are a. van gundy b. steve, yao, eddie are all a year older.

    and i think thats enough to get this team into the playoffs, and overall, id rank them in the 9-12 area.
     

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