Marcus Camby first day news thread

He didn't use the emote, so it can't possibly be PapaG.

 

looool

id put money on papag lurking as a guest tho

 

Having a PER of 15 would be
a) better than the mean or median PER of all players
b) worse than the mean or median PER of all starters (could be some argument against this, but I think it's true)
c) equal to the mean PER of players on the floor at any moment, sampled over many moments

 

I had the exact same feeling!

 

Talk about a derailed thread.

 

I am not sure why you are so upset, but the general idea that a PER of 15 is not an "average" player, where average is defined as "Meh" is still right. As we have shown - a PER of 15 means that for every minute you spend on the floor - you produce as much as the average of every minute of all the players playing do - since this average comes from the minutes that the LeBrons and Roys and Kobes and Dirks and all the other players averaged with all the many "Meh" players - it is pretty clear that it is better than your average "Meh" player production.

The funny thing is that in the NBA you do not get paid by minutes played, you are paid the same if you sit on the bench for 10 minutes or 30 every game. With the average salary in the NBA somewhere around the MLE ($6.5 mil) - getting a "PGP" production for much less - makes you a good ROI. That's all.

 

I'm not upset. I had a question. My opinion is that Outlaw is a "meh" player. Not particularly good. Not particularly bad. Meh. You mentioned "average starter", and I've never heard or read Hollinger use that term. I still haven't received an answer from him. The bar was moved from "average starter" to "pretty good". I can live with that, because offensively, Outlaw is "pretty good". Defensively, however, he is "pretty clueless".

 

I posted this in another thread. In the interest of returning this thread to something resembling it's title, I'm pasting it here.



It has been my impression in the past that Camby does everything he can to pad his rebounding stats at the expense of good overall basketball. Same with blocks. Why? My guess is because like Dennis Rodman, that's his statistical schtick to get the big contract. Is it my imagination or was Camby known in Denver for getting pissed off at his teammates if they dared to corral one of 'his' rebounds? Did I imagine that? (Hey, I may have. Hallucinations are fun.) I read somewhere yesterday about how Dunleavy got Camby to focus less on blocks and more on good defense, and that was trotted out as showing what a great selfless team player he is.

I always thought Camby was kind of a selfish, injury-prone cancer. Well, he hasn't been injury prone the last few years (There is hope for G.O. I tell ya!).

Contrary to my previous impressions, I have read and heard repeatedly over the last 24 hours what a great teammate Camby is, what a great locker room guy he is, what a great "glue guy" he is, what a great mentor and teacher he is, and how he's the most unselfish team-first player in the history of basketball.

I hope I was wrong and all that P.R. is right. Probably it's somewhere in between.

Don't get me wrong, I think on balance it's a pretty good trade. We got a legit player for our refuse and maintained a shot at the playoffs. I expect he will work hard for his next contract and fit in perfectly while here, and there is even a chance that if the Blazers don't want to keep him (or he doesn't want to stay) we may be able to do a sign and trade this summer for some long-term value.

Keep the Faith!

 

It's quite simple for me. Juwan Howard or Marcus Camby? Plus, Steve Blake actually called MacMillan after the trade to tell him what a fantastic teammate Camby was in Denver.

 

Well, PER does not really measure defense anyway. I think that Outlaw is pretty good offensively and meh defensively - which still makes him more than meh overall.

For the record - I think that defensively - when Outlaw pays attention - he is actually very good - but he just does not seem to have the mentality to pay attention all the time and is lost at times.

 

You sir are correct:

“It’s been about two years since I’ve been in the playoffs,” he said. “I’m really excited about it, really excited about my team. I’m being reunited with Andre Miller(notes) again, a great underrated point guard. I’m playing with Juwan Howard(notes), a guy I played with my first year in Denver. Of course, they have two great stars in Brandon Roy(notes) and LaMarcus Aldridge(notes). I look forward to playing with these guys.”

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