<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fefe @ Jul 22 2008, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm really not a Marcus fan, but I think he will break out in GS. I would not be surprised if he is their starting poinguard by midseason, with Monta sliding over to the 2 spot.</div> Marcus plays like he would on the playground in a three-on-three game. He could put up 18-8, but he will have trouble in a disciplined system where he has to defer to team concepts and play defense. I still believe that Marcus could be productive, in the same way that Marbury is productive. That is, being productive doesn't necessarily imply that he could lead a successful team. He could still have a decent career for a team happy to be stuck in mediocrity.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Jul 22 2008, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nets1 @ Jul 22 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm a bit concerned about point guard now. We got an almost injury prone starter in Harris, backed up by Dooling and Caroll? Looks like the weak link to me.</div> Absolutely. I trust there will be another trade that brings in a capable playmaker. Right now, there are only two on the roster, and that's not enough. </div> it will be a veteran in the Tyrone Lue mold that will not make waves when he just plays a few minutes a night.
I wonder what the Warriors were thinking trading a first rounder for him. Williams missed almost 30 games last season and was terrible when he returned. I don't know how the Nets were able to steal a first round pick. Bold move by the Warriors - I guess they feel they can still be competitive, despite losing their best player in Baron Davis.
The sucky part about this is that when Marcus excels at GS, and he'll do really well in their system, all these guys here are going to say told-you-so. But, yay, we're down to 16, 17 and we haven't gotten rid of anyone I didn't want them to yet.
golden state is the perfect team for him...i wish him good luck and wish he will flourish there but not if we are playing against them... i was always saying trade marcus for belinelli but a 1st rounder is a great deal!
I'm happy for Marcus because if there's one team where he'll be able to prove his worth it's the Warriors. Now granted they are a deceptively good defensive team in their own right but his play making skills will surely be maximized there. Anyone saying this will come back to bite us simply needs to understand that Marcus would never see his maximum potential on our team with the syle of ball we play. Both teams got what they wanted. I think this is a great trade and I hope Marcus does succeed in Golden State.
Practically Speaking, We know we still have to make a 2 for 1 trade. I always thought Marcus would have helped move Swift or Hassel.... Now that his 'piece' is gone, what kind of REALISTIC and REASONABLE trade could still be made to "cut some of our crap and cap."?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JRon @ Jul 22 2008, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Practically Speaking, We know we still have to make a 2 for 1 trade. I always thought Marcus would have helped move Swift or Hassel.... Now that his 'piece' is gone, what kind of REALISTIC and REASONABLE trade could still be made to "cut some of our crap and cap."?</div> I'm raising the spectre of Okafur--see other thread.
Being a Nets and Warriors fan, I LOVE this trade. Nets get a draft pick, and Warriors get Marcus Williams that will be good with Nellie mentoring him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (reganomics813 @ Jul 22 2008, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm happy for Marcus because if there's one team where he'll be able to prove his worth it's the Warriors. Now granted they are a deceptively good defensive team in their own right but his play making skills will surely be maximized there. Anyone saying this will come back to bite us simply needs to understand that Marcus would never see his maximum potential on our team with the syle of ball we play. Both teams got what they wanted. I think this is a great trade and I hope Marcus does succeed in Golden State.</div> Took the words right out of my mind. I wish Marcus the very best.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ak30 @ Jul 22 2008, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dooling is as much a PG as Carter is. He averaged 1 assist last year. How is he a PG? This team needs Kyle Lowry in the worst way possible. Trade Sean or Boone for Lowry and then I'll be happy. You can sugercoat it all you want. You can trash Marcus all you want. As it stands right now the Nets don't have a legitimate PG on their roster.</div> If Dooling is as much a PG as Carter, he wouldn't just be making 3.3 million a year. In fact, he'd be the starting point guard on this team. You might not know, but Carter is actually the best play maker on the team right now. Devin Harris is second, mainly because of his speed and penetration.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 22 2008, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Jul 22 2008, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nets1 @ Jul 22 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm a bit concerned about point guard now. We got an almost injury prone starter in Harris, backed up by Dooling and Caroll? Looks like the weak link to me.</div> Absolutely. I trust there will be another trade that brings in a capable playmaker. Right now, there are only two on the roster, and that's not enough. </div> it will be a veteran in the Tyrone Lue mold that will not make waves when he just plays a few minutes a night. </div> Darrell Armstrong?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JRon @ Jul 22 2008, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Practically Speaking, We know we still have to make a 2 for 1 trade. I always thought Marcus would have helped move Swift or Hassel.... Now that his 'piece' is gone, what kind of REALISTIC and REASONABLE trade could still be made to "cut some of our crap and cap."?</div> Swift is already an expiring contract. The Nets could still use the first round pick from the Warriors to try and dump Simmons and Hassell for an expiring contract if they choose to go that route.
I had a feeling he would land with the warriors. I would have rather gotten a player back like Belini or possibly work something out for Al Harrington, but i guess this works too. I still want to go after Andres Nocioni the 3 is our weakest position. This is also the perfect time to get him. Deng gave the bulls until August 4th and this is the perfect time to dump Nocioni so they can pay for their other SF. We could workout something like Kristic and KVH for nocioni or a straight out salary dump like Swift and Ager for him. We would have to restructure that 5 year deal though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JRon @ Jul 22 2008, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Practically Speaking, We know we still have to make a 2 for 1 trade. I always thought Marcus would have helped move Swift or Hassel.... Now that his 'piece' is gone, what kind of REALISTIC and REASONABLE trade could still be made to "cut some of our crap and cap."?</div> This first reound pick we just got for him can help just as much. Actually i can easily imagine that this trade was made, because for some teams our package can be more enticing with this 1st round pick than it was with Marcus...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Jul 22 2008, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Harris is a poor man parker </div> Who can defend and has a slightly better jumper.
