Marijuana: Criticize it or Legalize it?

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  1. Michael Bryant

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    Come on, legalize it, make some money and have a good time.
     
  2. gentile

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Apr 18 2007, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Legalize it and illegalize tobacco and alcohol if it's so much worse. Just illegalize tobacco for the younger crowd and illegalize it totally when the addicts die off, same with beer. Just because harmful things like tobacco and alcohol are legal doesn't mean we should let more and more drugs become legal. Then you could say, hey, this thing isn't soooo much worse than Mary J, tobacco and alcohol. Lets make that legal too so the government can make more money. It won't hurt any more people than tobacco does.Edit: That'll happen because doing something illegally just makes things more exciting sometimes. So in addition to the many more people smoking this stuff there will be more people doing the other illegal drugs and eventually those may become legal. It's just too much smoke and drugs for me to handle. I get tired of cigarette smokers everywhere so if you add on weed to that it'll just be a disgusting environment. More 2nd hand smoke and sickness to go around.And for the people that get caught...they chose to do something illegal and you guys say it's not addicting so I have no reason to feel bad if they get caught and their lives are ruined. It was their choice.</div>Rule on to making a law is don't make a law you cannot possibly enforce. This is especially true in today's political environment when the only rationale for keeping drugs illegal is, "It doesn't send the right message." Probably we haven't been sending the right message anyway.You contradict yourself when you say that more people will use drugs if it's legalized, they say that people get excited by using dope because it's illegal. Everybody that wants it gets it whenever they want it already. And marijuana won't get more expensive. For one thing, the price goes down the more people use a product because of competition. For two, you can grow it in your own home.
     
  3. ASUFan22

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    I mean that people will always like marijuana and they will continue to use it. A lot of people don't use it because it's illegal, but they would start if it's not. And when it is legal it won't seem as special so some people will get their breaking the law excitement from the other drugs more.
     
  4. gentile

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    ^You know how it was made illegal in the first place, right? In the early 1900's, there was a backlash against Mexican immigrants in Texas. The usual politician hate speech, mexicans are crazy sex fiends because marijuana makes them that way attitude (which is preposterous), gave the legislature the excuse to make it illegal and put jail Mexicans.When the tree is planted in such poisonous soil, no good fruit can come of it.
     
  5. WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The thing is, you know it's illegal so you're smoking it knowing of the consequences. When you smoke it, you're basically saying "I dont care if I get caught"</div>People know it's illegal and they smoke it because they like it. Not because they don't care if they get caught. Just because your consious of the consequences doesn't mean you don't care if you get caught. If I like smoking pot, I'm going to smoke pot. Just like if you're in a hurry on the highway, you're going to speed because you have to get to where you need to go.
     
  6. ASUFan22

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    Well you're taking that chance and if you get caught then that's your own fault. Why don't they just take off speed limits too because you like to speed and will do it anyway? If you do something illegal just for a little fun then I don't feel bad at all if you get caught. You ruined your own life, not the laws. There are plenty of other things you could do for fun but instead you choose something illegal.
     
  7. LAZY

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    I say yes(Strict regulations). But I kinda think pot is trashy now. I've grown past the stage where I would want to start smoking pot.Maybe just have coffeeshops. Which is kinda like a bar for marijuana
     
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    No point in legalizing it. The problem isn't bad economy, it's debt and legalizing it won't help that much. It'd be like cigarettes, and it's bad enough having fuckers smoke those everywhere without adding marijuana smoke.
     
  9. gentile

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    Wouldn't it be more productive to ask why the law is in place in the first place and then work the discussion from there?I mean, if you take a look at that, then the pillars of it's illegality are sinking in mud, and all the money the government spends on imprisonment and ad campaigns are the only things holding it up.
     
  10. WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Wouldn't it be more productive to ask why the law is in place in the first place and then work the discussion from there?</div>Our government was being ignorant fools in the early 1900's, that's why Marijuana is illegal. The Marijuana Stamp Act for example. Marijuana was outlawed, but if you had Marijuana tax stamps you could legally possess it. But to obtain the stamps you had to show the government how much marijuana you had in your possession, which was technically breaking the law. There were cases of innocent hemp farmers being arrested by a confusing and misleading law. Take a look at former propoganda campaigns by the American government, "Reefer Madness", they were trying to back their stance on marijuana with no real evidence and myths. I really don't think it would be productive to ask why the law is in place because if you research the topic you come to the conclusion that it is in place because of an absolutely idiotic belief system that the government is trying to uphold.
     
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    But that's the point of knowing the history of these laws and discussing them. The pillars of this law are too weak to withstand any sort of significant public interest.And we can stop wasting money and lives, which the U.S. is showing more and more aptitude for lately.
     
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    I know the history of the law, it's all complete bullsh**. I'm not just saying that because I'm a marijuana activist or something, it's just idiotic why the law is in place. It's all good government American propaganda nonsense. I really don't see the point in discussing the history of the law 75 years ago when the war on drugs has been in full force for the past 35 years and the government foucses in on a drug that does nothing more than make someone giggly and hungry while heroin use is inclining in this country at the same time. Every drug ad on TV is about pot.
     
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    There is really no reason its illegal. I hope I live to see the day it's legalized. Other countries in the world have legal amounts(and their countries arent falling apart)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ May 20 2007, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There is really no reason its illegal. I hope I live to see the day it's legalized. Other countries in the world have legal amounts(and their countries arent falling apart)</div>That will be a great day...even if its when Im 50, I'll be busting out a big blunt and smoke it right in front of some cop or something.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ May 20 2007, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That will be a great day...even if its when Im 50, I'll be busting out a big blunt and smoke it right in front of some cop or something.</div>Watch, the cop will bust a bigger one out and blow smoke all over your face.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ May 21 2007, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Watch, the cop will bust a bigger one out and blow smoke all over your face.</div>and that cop will be brewcitybuck, who will finally have made the Police Dept. at 60 years old and is now celebrating.
     
  17. WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE

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    Haha so true Kobe24
     
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    I've never seen a really good reason for why it should be illegal. I don't smoke it, but if people want to smoke it, let them go ahead and do it.
     
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    We need to vote a good prez to win president who would legalize it. elect nas for president and he would. but the 2006 vote thing doesn't matter anymore. People are stupid to just look at two parties. There are a sh*t load of parties in the election, if it was spread out it would be better for the country.
     
  20. time takes time

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    I think it has a possibility of being legalized or decriminalized within the next 15 years or so. I've seen a video before that disproved the theory that marijuana impairs driving skills. someone did a driving test, then smoked, then did the same test, and they actually did it better when they were high. I know it doesn't really effect my driving. one time I drove with my mom in the car, and she actually complimented my driving afterwards.I think the main problem is that the government wants to tax it, but people can grow it in their house/backyard. So what I think should be done is that there is a law against growing, but not against possessing it.to be honest, I would be okay with the decriminalization. Too many people are in jail for marijuana, it's ridiculous. There are soo many worse things people could be thrown in jail for.
     

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