<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>That's BS - Moulds has been to the Probowl 3 times, has caught over 100 passes in a season feel free to not post any more.</div> According to the stats at ericmoulds.com, Moulds season high is 100 receptions so he HASN'T caught over 100 passes. Also, he has only broken the 80 reception mark three times in nine years and has only four 1,000 yard in nine seasons. I'm not real impressed.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>And what did you guys do after that game - Oh yeah, I remember now - you guys got embarassed by Denver. I'd rather see incomplete passes then INTs. As far as the overthrowing goes - I was trying to make the point that he tries to put the ball only where his recievers can make a play on it - and I guess I kinda hoped you guys would assume that there was some timing issues being worked out. BTW - I know it's so much more fun for you phin fans to dwell on the past - but those days are gone - both of our teams are under the control of different regimes and well, your team's leadership is gonna take a while to get your players adequately acclimated to the systems they wish to implement. My team on the other hand has pretty much absorbed Mularkey's O and this will be like the 5th year our D will be headed by Jerry Gray. It has to suck to be you - I've been there before when we went 3-13 under Gregg Williams. Like it or not, 9-7 is still a winning record - so choke on that.</div> At least, we got to play the Broncos. My point is that if a QB overthrows his WRs enough, the secondary will eat him alive with interceptions. No matter how you spin it, overthrowing WRs isn't a talent. It doesn't suck to be me. I've be a Dolphin fan for 30 years and I'll put our winning tradition up against anyone's. I'm also not a fair weathered pansy. I'm in here for the long haul. What has to suck is having to get on the internet to be a tough guy. Your chest must really puff out when you tell people to "choke on that." Go ahead and talk your smack. The Bills have never won a World Championship and there's no way they'll win one this year. It really shows what a rich winning tradition the Bills have win your telling people to "choke on" a 9-7 non-playoff season. Not only do you need to gain some objectivity, but you really need to learn to relax, Bubba. As great as football and this message board are, ultimately football is just a game and this is just a message board.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'> Kyle Boller has Derrick Mason who caught 96 balls 1168 and 7 TDS. and has been to the pro bowl twice. Thats more than Moulds. He also has 1st round pick Mark Clayton. So dont tell me im attacking my own credibility when your wrong</div> That's BS - Moulds has been to the Probowl 3 times, has caught over 100 passes in a season feel free to not post any more.</div> yea the bills have such a great team and they have so so many weapons and the next barry sanders and brett farve on the team. that was sarcasm. Derrick Mason and Eric Moulds rank about the same on the reciever ranks. Both are great and Moulds was amazing but has aged and is about the same. I would take Mason right now who is very underrated. Wow 1 more Pro Bowl that sure means a lot doesn't it. Brady has been to 1 or 2 Pro Bowls and has 3 rings in 4 years. So Pro Bowls mean nothing really at all. Now I am sure your thinking Lee Evans. Yes but he hasn't proven much in the nfl. But what about his big play at the end of the year. Maybe it's a fluke. The saints play great at the end of the year the past 3 or 4 years and they haven't been making the playoffs anytime soon. All I see his a young offense built around a young RB with so much potential relying on a defense without big Pat Williams and relying on a 1st year starting QB who is UNPROVEN taken in the bottom half of the 1st rnd a year ago with an average and somewhat not reliable o-line.</div> I was just correcting Panthersare#1 about the fact that 2 probowls are more then Moulds ever attended. Pat Williams will not be missed. Ron Edwards had more sacks then Pat Williams only in fill in duty for Pat Williams. We may lose a little bit in the run stuffing department, but Edwards is better at putting pressure on the QB so I'd say it was a fair trade. Lee Evans will prove to not be a fluke - the guy is very Torry Holt like - yeah, I know I'm gonna draw criticism for that one - I don't care - everyone on here seems to hate the Bills - I don't care about that either - I'm not going away, and I'm gonna continue to make my OPINION heard. - if you don't like stay out of the AFC East section. I hate the Pats, the Jets, and the Dolphins, unfortunately I can't really take anything away from the Pats at this moment, but the Jets and the Phins are a different story.
This is great...the pats have to play Farve,OJ,Holt,Jamal Lewis,Prime Time...man this bills team is scary...must be tough when all you can do is try and compare your guys...It's kinda like me saying brady is just like...well Brady no need to compare he's got his own last name..LOL
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'>This is great...the pats have to play Farve,OJ,Holt,Jamal Lewis,Prime Time...man this bills team is scary...must be tough when all you can do is try and compare your guys...It's kinda like me saying brady is just like...well Brady no need to compare he's got his own last name..LOL</div> man when did Favre and Deion get traded??? :cheesey:
yeah - JP Losman said the very same thing about himself - that he heard all of the comparisons, but that as flattering as those comparisons are, he'd rather make his own name. I'm so glad that we've got a QB with a swagger - something we haven't had since #12 retired after the 96 playoff loss to the Jags.
So it's totally wrong for me to see some of those old great players in some of the current Bills? What's next censorship on this board?
Here are ESPN's Fanstay Predictions Losman 181 for 339 for 2100 yards and 12 TDs and 16 INTS. That sound about right. McGahee 330 1325 yards avg 4.0 a carry and 11 TDS. 35 recs for 250 yards and one TD. Evans 58 rec 850 yards 14.7 avg and 6 TDs
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>So it's totally wrong for me to see some of those old great players in some of the current Bills? What's next censorship on this board?</div> It's not wrong...just not realistic to compare every guy you talk about to HOF or future HOF players....
espically players like Losman that havent started a game. Wait untill one year of starting is done and then compare him to Kelly
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Here are ESPN's Fanstay Predictions Losman 181 for 339 for 2100 yards and 12 TDs and 16 INTS. That sound about right. McGahee 330 1325 yards avg 4.0 a carry and 11 TDS. 35 recs for 250 yards and one TD. Evans 58 rec 850 yards 14.7 avg and 6 TDs</div> That's not pointless to you? Yeah, Evans is gonna catch 10 more passes but he'll have significantly less yards per catch. McGahee is gonna be better this year - last year he said that he was only at like 90% - a fully healthy McGahee should yield better results then that - they're just using his average per carry and adding on 102 touches. Losman WILL throw more then 12 TDs with the recievers that he has - 12 TDs just isn't enough - I'd say more like 18.
How am I going to compare Losman to Kelly when they are two different kinds of QBs? Losman is going to be a slightly slower, but more accurate Vick like QB while Kelly was more of a Peyton Manning type pocket passer that would only scramble to get out of the pocket and throw it out of bounds.
the ESPN anaylst said that he will do better because he is heathly this year, but he will get hurt by Losman struggles next year
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>? could you restate that in a more coherent manner?</div> I could clearly understand that he said McGahee would be better because he was still hurt last year but Losman's struggles would hurt his numbers....it was pretty simple to tell who he was talking about by following the conversation....
basically the ESPN anayst said that if Losman doesnt scare defense with his throwing ability, the defense will put 9 in the box
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>I can see Willis McGahee pulling something off like what Jamal Lewis did with the ravens .</div> LOLOL..Man am I Glad I dropped out of this thread...what a Joke...nevermind you went on to compare him with the juice who played in a totally different era....LOL all I can honestly say is WOW</div> Why are you still here then? You're a pompous you know what - I can't wait to see your Pats have a bad season and the SB victories become a distant memory. You take everything out of context and attack only what you want to see to make yourself feel good. My comparison with McGahee and the juice are for the fact that the opposing defenses we faced knew that the ball was gonna be ran - and yet they still couldn't stop it for the most part. Again - I said I SEE THE POSSIBILITY FOR MCGAHEE TO BE A 2000 YARD BACK IF AND ONLY IF McNally gets our offensive line into shape (the same guy that built a pretty damn decent line to protect Kerry Collins when he took the Giants to the Superbowl against the Ravens).
Ya I post to make myself feel good...damn I must be feeling really good then with all my posts..lol...more like I enjoy the debate and seeing other peoples side of things...ease up..no need to get all pissy over a forum...as for taking things out of context...you didn't compare bills players to Holt/Sanders/Kelly/Farve/Lewis/OJ ???? and I even think I saw a Vick comparison somewhere with loseman..
why didnt i read this post to start off! tko, i am sorry but youv are wrong on so many accounts. roethlisberger had the season he had because he had players. yes you have players, but the steelers had more. you also dont have an Oline. youre also always saying, "yea well we ALMOST beat you guys" well i hate to burst your bubble, but almost doesnt cut it. i think i also saw you say you think the division. PLEASE, not with both the jets and pats in the division. ill be honest i hate the jets and am a decent bills fan....(not mega fan) and i think they may beat them once, but sweeping them? you really must be delusional.
