I agree, perfect example McGwire broke down a lot & he was a user. Griffey broke down a lot & most people think he was clean. Go figure.
Very valid points, thanks 59, and the caveman too.....ya' know the one reg on our beloved boards, who's real pic looks like B.C. the Neanderthal... Indeed it is our cross to bear. I'm glad I'm not a HOF voter, for this era ..... I've collected old newspapers of major sporting events since i was a kid. I've got every Yankee newspaper of every W.S. win, from 61 on, and half those have every single game. Plus every record breaker, every 3,000 hit of any player. Every A.S. game induction paper. **** My point, I was going thru the papers, the other day, & purged over 100 newpapers of McGwire, Sosa, and Bonds historic HR's from #61 on. I had a ton of those shit rags. I couldn't believe I didn't toss them years ago. I cannot give them away. Then I realized they're shit, just no good for nothing shit.....so in the dumpster they went. (Can't give away most of their cards either, tho' I will keep their rookie cards, & that's it. I donated all the others to the baseball card memorabilia store. They too cannot sale them, so they're trying to give them away)...... My cross to bear, a good chunk of memorabilia tossed in the trash.....! But in more ways than this truly it is our cross to bear. ****Got Some real old ones My Grand Pa gave me, which are brittle as a cold maple leaf. Those are priceless sentimental gems. A few of DiMaggio/Williams, early Mantle/Berra articles, and of course the papers of the games by the Galoopin Galoots & Larrupin Lous newpapers.
I hear you Rob, I've also got quite a few rookie cards like Manny Rameriz, Rafeal Palmeiro, Jose Canseco, Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire & several others that could now be used as toilet paper. Yeah the rough kind. What a f'king waste.
It's a hard pill to swallow isn't it Rick, I hear ya'....downright painful....! I feel like I'm a kid again, who just found out my MLB hero robbed a bank....(not right now, just saying of the Steroid Era)....Damn it was hardest to toss most of my Clemens stuff tho' I did it....Rocket Man too, not going to make it to the moon.
Of all the Roiders, other than Canseco, was Beltre. His supposed positive 2003 testing was splashed all over L.A. papers back then. Beltre in a contract year in 04, (which makes me wonder, if this old list is legit, and failed test in 03, when did MLB get the results of the testing?)... for one when I look at this list, I don't believe for a minute Roberto Alomar ever took roids, I don't see it in his stats or change of play..... Much like Griffey Jr. We will never know, I'd love to put it behind me for good. If that is possible...? http://sportshumor23.wordpress.com/...ers-who-tested-positive-for-steroids-in-2003/ Beltre damn near couldn't leave L.A. fast enough, after a 04 outbreak season, of: Year HR's SLG OPS Team 2003: 23 .424 .714 Bums 2004 48 .629 1.017 Bums 2005 19 .413 .716 Seattle I can clearly see how NO ONE is going to hit 40 HR's at Safeco, yet did he test positive in 04, NO, but- was he masking juicing? In the court of the public & press, they hung him. Tho' their is NO evidence that says he did, in 04. A nightmare for MLB fans....!
To the best of my knowledge this guy never failed a drug test either........ 1995 = 16, 444, 815 1996 = 50, 637, 1.034 1997 = 18, 469, 863 Mr. Brady Anderson
...why would you bring up Brady Anderson? ...Anderson's ONE banner year came in 1996...his last decent year was 1999...his career ended in 2002....mandatory steroid testing did not begin till 2003. ...edit; check that, testing was agreed upon in Nov of 2003...actual testing began the following Spring of 2004.
I didn't know when actual testing began but I only really brought up Anderson because Rob was questioning who was & wasn't doing something.
...but all of the player he mentioned played during a time when there WAS testing. ...Anderson's 1996 season made him an early poster child for steroid use. FROM THIS : TO THIS:
Its amazing that 2nd picture, its like looking in the mirror. But all kidding aside how did he lose that power in 1997 only a year later.
...who knows for sure?...he got a lot of attention after '96 and raised a lot of eyebrows and people began whispering...maybe he quit juicing...maybe pitchers finally quit trying to beat him with a FB........again, who knows?
This one ALWAYS puzzled me, Where the hell did this come from? Check out 1973, SHIT! for some reason I can't copy & paste now. Anyway I'm referring to Davey Johnson's 1973 season with the Braves. You'll have to check it out yourself. I mean...fluke or what?
...it happens, and fairly often I would imagine...one that immediately came to mind is Roger Eugene Maris...1961
...also rick, 1973 was also Johnson's first year in Atlanta...and old Fulton County Stadium was known as "The Launching Pad"....big difference after playing in the bigger Memorial Stadium in Baltimore...plus after 1973, injuries affected him and by 1975 he was pretty much done.
