OT Mass shooting at Highland Park, IL 4th of July parade

I get what he was saying. What I'm saying is what those kids are doing with the screens and how that activity is monitored is vastly different from American culture.

Sigh… I am not sure how else to explain its not the tool, its how its used.
This can also be applied to guns.
How something is used is 100% on the mindset of the user and no fault of the tool itself.

 

take away that tool and it won't be used at all....which is the whole point. If I don't have a gun, my inner rage will not manifest in shooting people ...people lose it all the time...that's where the mental health approach breaks down...people can go from being productive responsible citizens to being serial killers over a disgruntled work place or a political difference or racist thoughts, etc....takes about 5 minutes for a rational person to lose control and flip out. Rather that happened without access to guns and ammo than with guns and ammo. Somebody yesterday shot a stranger in their car for driving too slowly....he had a gun in his car...no gun...that stranger probably survives the road rage.

 

And my point is taking away the tool does not fix the mindset of those not using the tools correctly. Another tool will just be found to be used incorrectly.
However, if we fix the mindset of the youth, then they will by and large use the tools correctly, reducing such atrocities but also helping to improve many other facets.

 

taking away the weapon saves lives....other social services for depression, bipolar tendencies, etc will still need attention but they won't be able to shoot people if they don't have guns

 

link?

You said consistently, please find 2 other examples.

This is just what happened in this case.

 

I wouldn't be surprised in this case. There seems to be quite a bit of overlap with autism and the incel community.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8990964/

 

China is government controlled, not parent controlled. Completely different.
Its not just about the games, screens, pads, etc. its the lack of supervision and guidance the average child gets. Its the average explanation/ education provided to the children regarding what they are seeing/doing on these screens.
See my original two posts in this thread.

 

Is that so?

Read above please.

 

I don't read NRA articles about guns...the country is filled with them there are magazines and organizations who've spent billions telling us how guns save lives...bunch of bullshit from my view......what you need to read about is how countries without guns have zero mass killings and fewer nutjobs acting out their rage on innocent civilians. You are not going to have a therapist intervene or a pharmacist correct the chemical imbalance in a bipolar person before they can shoot someone....doesn't mean they don't need the drugs or therapy...means what they don't need is a fucking gun and yes...I understand in America my opinion on guns is in the vast minority..but it needs to be voiced ..choices

 

I tend to disagree. Ill look up a specific show to show you, for example, what Japanese do with their young and how responsibility and problem solving is taught to kids before they even get to school. I don't know the name of the show and have to research it, but it is awesome.

I asked you to read another persons post. Not an nra article. but you Are welcome to your selective information to provide a selective stance without raking in all the facts and angles.

Quick suggestion. Try reading articles printed by entities you disagree with. It will likely expand your opinion as more informed, but also solidify the details of why you object to things and likely provide more info for you to back your stance.
But when cited with something and the response is, i wont click on it, it invalidates everything else said. Not only that but i was referring to the post. Not an nra article.
Anyhow impasse is correct. There is no debate to be had with people who only read articles they agree with and refuse to read what is being provided as a counter debate.

 

I'm a gun owner...a war vet and a person who's raised children, been a teacher of children and a responsible parent..I've grown up with people who are card carrying NRA members...I've heard all the justifications you think you've learned from and drawn my conclusions over 68 years of living....I formed my convictions from my own life and observations which clearly you are not versed in such things as foreign education and living in a society without guns so one of us is speculating from one specific culture and guessing about the others....the other is not. Choices...I taught my children responsibility before they entered school....I've taught a lot of young people and taught college in Asia for 6 years as well as public school in Hawaii and Oregon ......you can learn from people who have walked a longer path or doubt the sincerity of their convictions...form your own conclusions but try to see the other side you seem to be avoiding. As it is you can have your guns so you should be happy....the rest of this is just the same old laundry that keeps the arms race wealthy and preaches the security of being armed as opposed to the safety of not needing to be armed.

 

But see thats what some of us have been saying is that people screaming its republicans and guns are avoiding all the other facets and facts.
The avoidance street goes both ways sir. But at this point we are just spinning circles around that street.
I stated my opinions and provided examples and stats that helped to form my opinion. I cant control how you or others perceive/receive that info, but if you think my posting it is out of avoidance… well…
You are entitled to your opinion.

 

When was your last year spent in Taiwan living there? If over a decade than your experience begins to lessen in the current state.
I lived in some places 20 plus years ago but would never claim to know how it currently sits because times, people, environments and policies change.
If your last stint in Taiwan was within the last decade then i would absolutely attribute more weight to your opinion.
When were you last living in Taiwan?

 

Just so i have it clear: Controlling guns and making new laws are not realistic and too major of an undertaking so instead let’s change the parenting habits of a hundred million parents and also regulate what internet / online content kids see.

 

I moved there in 1981 and came home in 2001 but have gone back ..last time I spent 8 months teaching Jr High in Taipei when SARS happened in 2003.....my wife and son go back all the time.my wife's brothers and family skype with her all the time...we've never lost touch with what goes on there..we follow the news there and have a huge family there that has never left....how about you? You know a lot about Taiwan? I talk with our family there all the time....I've also travelled China, Thailand, Korea, Vietnam, Phillipines, Malaysia, Indonesia, India and Singapore, Okinawa and Japan.....I'm married to a Taiwanese lady who became a citizen here in 2005....you don't need to attribute weight to my experiences..
I spent 20 years over there not counting my Navy travels in the early 70s. from the time I lived there until today the gun laws have remained the same and they still have no mass shootings today. My inlaws also come to visit here at times and they know what's going on

 

Understood. Its more so about cultural changes regarding technology that I am thinking has changed dramatically over the last 20 years. Not guns.
Thanks for the detailed history though. Very interesting!