Massachusetts going from Blue to Brown?

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  1. STOMP

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    you are being ridiculous and insulting which is expected when someone points out your BS. It was Teddy's seat for decades... that is an inarguable fact. It was also the people's seat if one wants to split hairs and raise a fake issue to become insulted by. Again, I saw this debate in context not just in the short clip you relayed... from FOX no less :lol: Claims of it being an example of bias are laughable and expected coming from someone I've come to expect bias from. The politician gave a solid answer to the question seizing on the duplicity of the meaning of the words, but it was a legitimate question with reasonable language

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    Sounds like you have a bias of your own. I guess we have to throw out your opinion.
     
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    Really? Because I'm not willing to buy BS I'm biased? I guess we all have some, but mine isn't joined at the hip to the Dems or Reps like a :smiley-cheer: plus I'm not wailing about the meanies in the news. For the record, I'm 42 and vote in every election. I've voted for both Republican and Democrats at every level of government usually dependent on the candidate. I've also voted for many candidates outside of those two parties... I don't think either the Ds or Rs have my best interests in mind

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    UNBELIEVABLE!!!

    In an overwhelming dem state, an unknown GOP just kicks assssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss over a socialist opponent expected to win with complete ease, and essentially wins one of the most improbable major elections since Truman defeated Dewey.

    No wonder several key dems have all of a sudden opted to "retire" rather than face humiliating near certain defeats after this health care and obamanomic catastrophes.

    I'll say this- starting with the GOP wins when Clinton was President, to the demorat overthrowing the GOP in the last election or two to the very real possibility the next two elections will again swing the balance of power in DC make this Congress the most unstable in the history of the country.
     
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    I think in their own ways both the GOP and socialists have people's best interests at heart, it's just that neither side has a lock on what the people really want and need. Add to that, like it or not, we haven't a true leader in the White House since Regan. We're like a rudderless ship in DC.
     
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    American people are pissed. PERIOD
     
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    Agreed.
     
  8. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    How am I being insulting? The intent of David Gergen's question was clear.

    Well, Ted's dead. He died much later than he would have had he not received the health care he tried to deny everyone else. Gergen's question was a "gotcha" attempt that showed the worst of the inside-the-beltway mentality: The seat wasn't the people's; it was Ted Kennedy's.

    As for the answer, he answered it completely. The first part of his answer was to dismiss the fallacy that somehow whoever took the seat owed the Kennedy's something. The second part of his answer discussed why the current health care bill was a bad one.

    I agree he gave a solid answer. However, what you missed was the subtext to the question. I spent almost a decade in DC. I know countless people who have worked at the White House and in both houses of Congress. I think I understand the inside the beltway mentality better than you. If you disagree, tell me why.
     
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    HOLY COW!! MASSACHUSETTS ELECTED A REPUBLICAN SENATOR!!!

    If a Republican can win in Massachussetts (and in NJ and Virginia), then Obama and the Democrats are in some deep doo-doo. Consider the fact that only 12% of the voters in MA are Republican, and this election takes on HUGE IMPLICATIONS.

    This is a clear rejection of Obama's vision of "change" and what he wants to do with this country. America has finally awoken from its slumber and is speaking out loud and clear.
     
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    You hit on what many spinners are trying to deny. It's not just Massachusetts; that's the cherry on top you never expected. It's the victories in Virginia, which had hugely trended blue as of late and New Fucking Jersey, which blows my mind. This isn't a one-off; it's a strong trend.
     
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    You got it. And don't you love this quote from the mayor of Boston?

    :clap::clap::clap:
     
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    For the most part both sides of the aisle are bought off by the same corporations who own the media... thats who sets our agenda and sells us a bag of goods. The national squabbles over issues are choreographed soap operas. Even when the voters are clear in their desires (like for single payer) it doesn't matter.

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    That's a fantastic quote, Shooter. It had little to do with Martha Coakley. She didn't help, but Scott Brown won because he nationalized the election. Ms. Coakley ran on being a rubber stamp for the Obama agenda. Well, the populace of the Commonwealth played Mutumbo and rejected that idea.

    What's shocking to me is how President Obama can't translate his personal popularity to the candidates for which he stumps. So far, he's 0 for Copenhagen, New Jersey, Virginia and Massachusetts.
     
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    People voted for a change in the way Washington functioned, not for single payer healthcare or a massive expansion for the role of government in their lives. The Republicans crapped all over the American people and went Washington. They were rightly and resoundingly defeated. The problem was the Democrats misunderstood the mandate.

    What's going on now is not just an anti-Obama wave, but an anti-incumbent wave. The next dominant party is going to grab the populist reins and give the government back to the people and govern responsibly.
     
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    Roger Ebert uses a digit other than his thumb to explain this result:

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    Get ready for a massive loss in mid-terms.

    How quickly people forget about the losses for Democrats already in Virginia and New Jersey. This isn't a one-time surprise.

    I find is stunning how screwed up the Democrats' priorities are. The economy is in the tank and that should be their focus. Instead, they do everything in their power to prolong the negative and try to scare people into believing that their ridiculously massive spending is needed to stop it. People can see that there are no jobs being created, their life savings (real estate) wiped out, empty storefronts and office parks, the banks aren't loaning money, and the progressive agenda offers nothing of substance to anyone but govt. workers. To make it worse, Godlman Sachs, trial lawyers, unions, big pharma, and the insurance companies sure seem to be getting a huge transfer of money from the treasury and private sector.

    The polls all along have been indicating the Democrats are falling on their own swords. Harry Reid is going to lose in his home state in November. The freakin' senate majority leader who was given the gift of a super majority (60 votes). Barbara Boxer is going to lose, too. Right now with 41 senators, Republicans need to gain 9 seats to make it 50-50, and it's looking like there are 7 near sure-thing seats they'll gain.
     
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    I realized the same things a long time ago.
     
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    Best headline I've seen this morning:

    "Nothing like a good Mass. kicking."
     

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