Notice Matisse Thybulle came to Portland via the Josh Hart trade

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  1. Sheldon Shape

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    The whole organization and the fanbase has. Their franchise player asks out two years after sell-low Joe demolished the team.
     
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    gawddam...there are a lot of fights in this forum right now. I feel bad I'm not in any

    I need to pick a fight with somebody...anybody. Maybe Nate because he punches like a girl...a drunk girl with iron-poor blood. Is that sexist? I can't tell anymore
     
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    There is also a lot of smoke about what Hart did with NYK. Let's not forget that he and NYK agreed to delay his opt-in day - clearly they were working on something which turned out to be being able to get Donte DiVincenzo into their TPE. I am sure that if it didn't work, he would have opted out and got the big contract immediately.
     
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    Damn man, one more thing you are not good at. So sorry HCP.
     
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    We keep conjuring up why all the deals made were actually good. You pay more money to better players. Look at...

    - Our record since the trade
    - Dame asking out
    - Now we have to rebuild

    We can talk about who wanted to go where and for what cost but the front office has been completely ineffective since taking over for Olshey who had his own issues.

    This gives me John Nash vibes all over again. But Cronin is such a nice man!
     
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    spoken like a married man...a defeated hopeless married man, but that's redundant
     
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    Our record...... while tanking?
     
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    I’m on a family trip right now. How did you know…?
     
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    ... And you're coming at me? lol They must be awful.
     
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    What great player did we give up in this clipper trade?
     
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    Completely ineffective?? The front office had us tank twice and got us Sharpe and Scoot. That is a major credit to them. Best moves we’ve made since drafting Dame.
     
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    You usually take a stance unprovable things, so you can always claim you're right!
     
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    A great example of an unprovable claim you like to make!
     
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    I'm in the same boat... bring it on!
     
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    I already said that there have been rumors that NY is going to sign him for 20 mil per year.

    Setting aside the reports that he wanted to go to NY anyway, do you think we would have gone into the luxury tax for Hart? Especially with Dame leaving?
     
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    You don't think disassembling our team by trading Hart and GP2 for inferior talents just to save money had anything to do with Dame wanting out? This comes down to the franchise wanting to be cheap. Better players cost more money. Frankly, if we're going to rebuild I don't think I keep either Hart or Thybulle. But dollar to dollar, Hart is the superior talent by a significant margin.
     
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    Hart just wanted a place to move his family to where he could settle down long term. It didn't have to be NY; Blazers instead moved on with a preference of Thybulle, paying Grant $160 million, avoiding any possible tax from Hart, and the pick.
     
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    Wrong, Hart wanted a place to move his family, it didn't have to by NYC.
     
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    Incorrect.
     
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    I don't. I thought it was a solid trade for Portland.

    I also can't say that whatever Hart gets next summer, Portland would've never given him. There is no way to prove what Portland would've given him.
     
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