Dallas would take its payroll from $90 million to $84 million with that move. We need to make it to $70 million to really be good, I think.
Wait, you mean just free agents, right?I was just wondering, is there some sort of contract restructuring possible in the NBA to lower a player's salary? Damp's need to go down about $10 million total in his contract.No bench player should get a 7 year/$70 million contract.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>No bench player should get a 7 year/$70 million contract.</div>Well he's not a bench type player, he still plays when it counts and plays more then Diop. Also, his contract ain't bad for a big man. There was a list before that had Ben Wallace be the only center, not counting scrubs that makes less then him. And that will change come this summer.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>For money wise Dallas should keep Terry and Powell first. The rest are optional and not needs.</div>Were over the cap anyways, so what if we sign guys to lower level deals. Their not strangleholds. And Powell first? I don't get the lovefest with the guy. He's replaceable easily.
Yeah I think the Mavs aren't going to get any cap relief any time soon, so paying out for these guys won't make us any worse.As far as Powell goes, I in no way think we should offer him more than a MLE...but I do think he's worth at least trying to keep.You think he's easily replaceable, but I don't know alot of young talented, quality backup PF's out there, and if there is one, your going to pay quite a bit for them.Now I don't think he's as important as Marquis was to keep a few years back, but I do think he's worthy of a contract extension.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You think he's easily replaceable, but I don't know alot of young talented, quality backup PF's out there, and if there is one, your going to pay quite a bit for them.</div>We could simply draft one since we have two picks, a first and second this year. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Powell=Haslem. I think we should keep him.</div>That's a nice comparison if Powell can make his midrange jumper money. Now it may seem I don't like Powell, it's not that, I like him but I think we don't need to overpay him since we have other options. Same goes for Benga.But honestly I expect the same roster next year with DA/Benga gone, draft picks in. Expecting a guard in first, big in 2nd. Diaz/Buckman could be ideal.Harris/Diaz/Terry(Daniels could get minutes here)Terry/Stackhouse/Marshall(Griff and Diaz as well)Howard/Daniels/Griffin(Powell can play minutes here)Nowitzki/Van Horn/Powell/BuckmanDiop/Dampier/Buckman/PodkolzinThat to me is a solid 15 man rotation, you can even switch Powell and Van Horn depending on the matchup at backup 4.
Dude, there is NO reason to fix what's already fixed.The center position is FINE, the power forward position is GREAT, the shooting guard can use some insurance, the point guard position need some tweaks, but the current roster is a SIXTY WIN TEAM!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Dude, there is NO reason to fix what's already fixed.The center position is FINE, the power forward position is GREAT, the shooting guard can use some insurance, the point guard position need some tweaks, but the current roster is a SIXTY WIN TEAM!!</div>What the f^ck are you babbling about? See Mavsfan what kind of post is this? You can't keep everyone, every year teams have some kind of change. It happens.And our power forward position isn't fine because at backup we have two free agents we need to resign. Also, have to resign Terry. All of these aren't guaranteed.But other then that, I expect our draft picks to replace certain guys. Did anyone see NBADraft.net's mock. It has Daniel Gibson going to Mavs, that's a nice guard to put behind Harris/Terry, and being from Texas is a bonus. He could be our Chris Duhon, a backup guard who can start in case of injuries and be a nice backup for Harris/Terry.It has Batista for 2nd, but I rather draft a bigger c/pf type, Batista seems a little too small for that. Be nice if Marcus Slaughter could fall.
I would be ok in letting Van Horn go but it would be nice to have some insurance at the center and point guard position. Therefore resign Terry, Powell, and Mbenga and let Van Horn and Marshall go unless gotten real cheap. I don't know who Dallas will draft but Dallas needs immediate impact. Pavel can spend another year in the cba. The other draft picks can fill the roster. C Diop/Dampier/MbengaPF Nowitzki/Powell/MbengaSF Josh Howard/Stackhouse/GriffinSG Terry/Daniels/StackhousePG Harris/Terry/Daniels
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I would be ok in letting Van Horn go but it would be nice to have some insurance at the center and point guard position. Therefore resign Terry, Powell, and Mbenga and let Van Horn and Marshall go unless gotten real cheap. I don't know who Dallas will draft but Dallas needs immediate impact. Pavel can spend another year in the cba. The other draft picks can fill the roster.</div>League rules permit Pavel from participating in the D-League again. It's only the first 2 years of a pro. Also, Pavel would still count against the roster, I don't get why people get so complicated with the D-League. When you send them down, they still count towards your roster, it's not like the minors in baseball.Also, I don't get why your against signing Van Horn and Marshall to fill out the 15 man roster, we've always had a full roster under Cubes, I doubt it will change. Van Horn should take most of the MLE(who else do we use it on?) and Marshall should get the min(his little stint won't get him much of a deal).Your obviously wanting to keep a overpaid Benga, because with you saying sign Terry, Powell, and Benga, that only leaves the MLE to spend on him. And I think that's stupid, but it's your opinion. I rather sign Van Horn over Benga with the MLE, you prefer Benga. I guess we'll see come offseason.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>have some insurance at the center and point guard position.</div> That's where the draft shoud come in imo, rookie contracts are a bargain.
I'd take Mbenga over Van Horn if the price is the same. If they are not than I might not take either. I just don't think Van Horn is a good fit on this team. The +/- is the worst of the top 10 players on this team. The only worse are DA and Powell though Powell didn't get enough minutes until lately. Mbenga has a better +/- than Van Horn. Mbenga has a more upside because of his athleticism and he has improved his shot tremendously.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Mbenga has a better +/- than Van Horn.</div>That's where the stat is flawed. Considering the minutes Benga gets and when he gets the majority of them in garbage time, what do you expect. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I'd take Mbenga over Van Horn if the price is the same.</div> If you ran a team, I bet you'd sign CBA players to 40 million dollar contracts.
You are underrating Mbenga big time. That guy is just as good as Diop. Tonight so far he has been better than Diop. He can guard power forwards because of his speed. Perfect against Elton Brand.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You are underrating Mbenga big time. That guy is just as good as Diop. Tonight so far he has been better than Diop. He can guard power forwards because of his speed. Perfect against Elton Brand.</div>No I'm not, I just don't think he's a guy we should overpay to keep. Also, for his height and athleticism he's a horrid rebounder. Probably because his basketball iq isn't there yet but that's a weak part his game. He can run the floor and block shots. A good commodity but not worth MLE.And the reason I'd sign Van Horn over him is at pf, we would have Powell, a young'un to backup Dirk. I already stated my case as why I don't want Benga sniffing time at pf, because it would pair him with one of our centers. So were left now with Powell/Benga at backup pf. Two young inexperience guys. With Van Horn you have a vet to backup Dirk, plus Powell a young guy. A good mix. Benga is replaceable by Pavel/Draft pick that can fill the void at third string center.
Well if Van Horn is worth the mid level exception than Mbenga is to. Van Horn will hurt Josh Powell's progress if he stays here. I'd rather Mbenga be a 3rd string Power Forward to let Powell progress.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Well if Van Horn is worth the mid level exception than Mbenga is to.</div>To you, Van Horn is a known commodity, Benga isn't so it's a gamble for teams to spend on him. What gamble do we need to take when we have two centers, a project and possibly another through draft. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Van Horn will hurt Josh Powell's progress if he stays here.</div>No he won't, Van Horn is a situational guy, both will get minutes all year during the regular season. Avery will play the better guy, and no offense Powell is at his ceiling. He's just got to get his shot consistent and play smart, but his skills are at it's peak. The guy has been trying out for the Mavs for 2 years, went a year in Europe, he doesn't have much growing to do.I'm moving on, it's amazes me how young role players are being overrated here, their a dime a dozen, that's why their undrafted.
Benga has looks as good as he does, which isn't great, but nice, because he's playing against other backup Centers and PF all the time. You won't see Benga start anytime soon, and if he did, he'd be run over by the better starters in the league.Now don't take that the wrong way mavsfan, I do like Benga, and think he'll develop into a very good player, but probably just a backup or role player type guy.I don't think he's worth the MLE, but if the Mavs think he is, and want to keep him, then they'll probably have to give it to him.
