Meat production | WARNING: Graphic footage

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  1. NTC

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    That was very disturbing. I cant stand watching people treat animals like this, regardless of wether they were bred for the purpose of food or not, any cruelty to animals is somthing that just disgusts me. They're just so innocent, its like killing or torturing a baby.

    However, in saying that, the video wont stop me from eating meat.
     
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    u guys understand u can't abhor animal cruelty and at that same time be o.k. about eating meat, its betrays the logical continuum. i suggest tofu
     
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    To be fair, after watching this video I felt in a similar situation since I drink milk. I mean, they forcibly impregnate cows so they can get them to produce milk. That's just plain horrible. I wish they had a Trader Joe's up in Canada.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">u guys understand u can't abhor animal cruelty and at that same time be o.k. about eating meat, its betrays the logical continuum. i suggest tofu</div>

    So how do you feel about E. Coli with your spinach and salads?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">u guys understand u can't abhor animal cruelty and at that same time be o.k. about eating meat, its betrays the logical continuum. i suggest tofu</div>

    Well I know personally that its not all like this (I've grown up around Hunting, Farming, Meat Production etc.), infact in more cases (especially here in Australia) its not like that at all, the animals are bred and treated quite well before being sent to slaughter.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So how do you feel about E. Coli with your spinach and salads?</div>

    hate spinach. so i don't feel , plus, i think the so called outbreak was isolated to the states.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well I know personally that its not all like this (I've grown up around Hunting, Farming, Meat Production etc.), infact in more cases (especially here in Australia) its not like that at all, the animals are bred and treated quite well before being sent to slaughter.</div>


    again your above comment betrays the logical continuum. to that end, the hunted animal feels excruciating amounts of pain
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Bahir Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Are you saying that that justifies it?</div>

    no im not saying that its right to treat ANY LIVING CREATURE like that, but while i eat them i won't be like o man this was once living because it was raised to be killed for me to eat it,
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">To be fair, after watching this video I felt in a similar situation since I drink milk. I mean, they forcibly impregnate cows so they can get them to produce milk. That's just plain horrible. I wish they had a Trader Joe's up in Canada.</div>

    I'm sure there are many halal meat stores in Canada. There's a lot of Muslim people in Canada, enough to have lots of Halal Meat stores.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">hate spinach. so i don't feel , plus, i think the so called outbreak was isolated to the states.</div>

    If you don't eat meat and you don't eat spinach, where do you get your source of iron from?

    There's nothing wrong with hunting and then eating your kill. Personally I don't hunt, I wouldn't have the patience for it, but there are a lot of benefits. When an area is over populated by deer, do to a lack of predators to thin out the population, then it's beneficial to have hunters replace the role of natural predators such as mountain lions, bears, or coyotes.

    I don't have a problem with the animals being killed for meat, but I do have a problem with the torturing and the low living standards the farmers have for these animals.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Pakman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm sure there are many halal meat stores in Canada. There's a lot of Muslim people in Canada, enough to have lots of Halal Meat stores.</div>
    I don't eat meat, so I'm not sure how helpful that is.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't eat meat, so I'm not sure how helpful that is.</div>

    Oh, I thought you did because you said you wished there was a Traders Joe in Canada.
     
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    For the milk and other products that come from animals. And also because they have awesome prices.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If you don't eat meat and you don't eat spinach, where do you get your source of iron from?

    There's nothing wrong with hunting and then eating your kill. Personally I don't hunt, I wouldn't have the patience for it, but there are a lot of benefits. When an area is over populated by deer, do to a lack of predators to thin out the population, then it's beneficial to have hunters replace the role of natural predators such as mountain lions, bears, or coyotes.

    I don't have a problem with the animals being killed for meat, but I do have a problem with the torturing and the low living standards the farmers have for these animals.</div>

    cod liver oil, i take some vitamins as well and i eat spinach, just don't like it. btw, hunting is nothing more than a draconian act. question to all: how do u morally justify eating meat? particularly in light of the presence of supplements which offsets any dietary needs.
     
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    Most markets are offering all natural alternatives by now. Companies like Coleman and Creekstone Farms provide hormone free, all natural beef and pork. They also go out of their way to provide carefully researched humane animal care practices. Companies like Bell & Evans and Springer Mountain Farms also have the same standards in the poultry industry. They are free range birds, which means they aren't kept isolated in cages.

    The catch is that it's more expensive than normal USDA graded meats(not much, though), which is enough to keep most people away from buying it.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">cod liver oil, i take some vitamins as well and i eat spinach, just don't like it. btw, hunting is nothing more than a draconian act. question to all: how do u morally justify eating meat? particularly in light of the presence of supplements which offsets any dietary needs.</div>

    You realize the cod used to make your oil is also slaughtered and farm raised using growth hormones right? As a by product of consuming cod, Canadian fisherman have also been killing off seals, which they blame has diminished the cod fish population.

    When it comes to eating meat, morals don't play a role in the thought process. I just want to eat the son of a bitch.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You realize the cod used to make your oil is also slaughtered and farm raised using growth hormones right?

    When it comes to eating meat, morals don't play a role in the thought process. I just want to eat the son of a bitch.</div>

    cod tortured? news to me. eat tofu, no worries with that. btw, i had some barbecued tofu last week at a chinese restaurant- easily the tastiest thing u will ever eat.

    and morals are a constant in all facets of life.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">cod tortured? news to me. eat tofu, no worries with that. btw, i had some barbecued tofu last week at a chinese restaurant- easily the tastiest thing u will ever eat.

    and morals are a constant in all facets of life.</div>

    As a by product of consuming cod, Canadian fisherman have also been killing off seals, which they blame has diminished the cod fish population.
     
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    Those damn Canadians....

    You're right, though. There's no point in having that "holier than thou" attitude, because these issues are more complex than that.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">As a by product of consuming cod, Canadian fisherman have also been killing off seals, which they blame has diminished the cod fish population.</div>

    did pamela anderson say that? my cod liver oil is imported from india, and thankfully there are no seals in india.
     

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