Exclusive Meltdown Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by kjironman1, Nov 12, 2017.

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This is the thread to end all after loss threads. Should we make this a membership only thread?

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  1. riverman

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    I think we should start Melo ...Whiteside played much better with the starters, I think most players do...coming off the bench I think Melo thinks he has to carry the offense ...with the starters he's a third or fourth option which at this point in his career would be fine.....I'd rather see Trent, Hood and Jones find their offense with the second unit
     
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  2. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    This has been brought up a couple times. I have started to agree with it. Give him the Vonleh start and see what happens then play him as needed from there.
     
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    I'm just not on board. I think we need to give these two forwards a little time to get their shit together. The payoff in the long run will be greater than playing Melo in their stead. I'm actually on the "cut Melo's minutes to around 15" club... if there is one.

    Edit: The rebounding thing is a false narrative. RoCo has a higher per 36 rebounding rate for his career and both guys have spent their entire careers playing the hybrid forward spot. They have virtually the same standing reach (RoCo's is 6 inches higher) and RoCo has to have a higher vertical since Melo is older and had a four inch disadvantage as far as combine numbers go.

    I realize that Melo has a wider base at this point in his career but RoCo's activity and quickness is easily better than Melo's and you have to realize that the GOAT rebounder didn't take up a lot of space but used his activity more than anything.
     
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  4. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    Good point. I'm thinking the idea is more getting things rolling. But yes eventually they will need to be able to rely on the two new forwards to gel. That will not include Melo. At least i hope so.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Yes, another reason
     
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    I think Stotts feals obliged to play Melo and maybe he is per Olshey's agreement with Melo's agent, but I don't see how this benefits our team. Even when Zach is back i still think Melo-Kanter will be the bench duo. We need quicker feet from the bench.
    And what was this BS with Trent? How on earth they think not playing Trent benefits the team?
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    I'm with you on Gary completely. I think Zach is going to get serious run when he gets back because he has that foot speed that you are saying we need. As far as an agreement with Melo's agent goes, this is the fucking NBA... if you can't cut it then the agreement is off the table. So unless Melo can start being efficient with his iso or start passing, making open threes and giving it everything he has on D... the guy can sit his ass down.
     
  8. kjironman1

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    I would venture a guess that Ant needed some run. It's simple as that. He has been injured and needed to get back on the court.
    Those people complaining about playing Melo over Trent seem to be a little confused? They don't play the same position at all.
    The Trent sitting and Ant playing conversation is really mute for the most part. We are talking 11 mins as opposed to 6 mins. Trent on the court another 5 mins isn't a huge issue with me.
    By the way Simons played pretty well.
     
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  9. LayneStaley

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    Keep sitting Melo the last 10 minutes of games, eventually he will ask for release and problem solved.
     
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    lol. I hope he can get it back. I do like him and think he is a good person. He was loyal to us in the offseason and is taking on a role he has never had before. give him time too.
    there will be times his iso play will be needed. Playoff basketball generally slows down and becomes a half court game.
    He just needs to keep his head up and eye on the prize. Minutes now dont matter for him. Its down the stretch that will count and this team will need what he can offer.
     
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    It worked. Maybe keep sitting him the last 10 mins and use his knowledge for what he sees on the court?
     
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    Giles, Nas, Trent playing in the second unit has much more appeal to me than playing Kanter, Melo, Hood.

    I mean where are Zach’s min coming from when he gets back? Melo and Kanter right?
     
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    Both Melo and Kanter...I seriously think they should waive Melo now so he could hook up somewhere else. Between Giles, Nas & Collins they need minutes to develop.
     
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    Bump!
    So much to meltdown about!
    Melo (Check)
    Nurk (Check)
    Collins (Check)
    CJ (Check)
    CJ #2 (Check)
    Ant (Check)
    STOTTS! (CHECK)
     
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    what do you mean by "(check)"....?

    just cause you keep saying (check) doesn't mean it's true
     
  16. UKRAINEFAN

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    He did only take four shots in the win against Sacramento. It's interesting that in two of our best games of the season, one he didn't play in, one he only took 4 shots.......
     
  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Can you really meltdown again if you have already melted down? We're melted. There's nothing left to melt.
     
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    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

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    at about 1130 today, i made myself a tunamelt.
    I ate half aNd put the other half in the microwave and went out and filled up the yard debree bin. I came back in, showered, started some laundry and then pulled the other half out of the microwave, tossed it back on the frying pan aNd melted it again.
    I just finished the other half.
    It was fantastic!
     
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  19. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    So obviously there is no limit on Meltdowns.
     
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  20. BoomChakaLaka

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    Melo is our third best player...
     

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