Exclusive Meltdown Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by kjironman1, Nov 12, 2017.

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This is the thread to end all after loss threads. Should we make this a membership only thread?

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  1. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I am reserving my spot for my Meltdown if Cronin does jack BEEP like some think but hell maybe he will surprise me . Even a broken clock is right twice a day it could happen -- tick tock
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Jack shit?

    Jack fuck?

    Jack squat?

    Jack didilly?
     
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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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  6. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Hopefully the drunken outrage posts maintain confined to this thread. LOL!
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Based on what has exchanged hands so far, I hope Brogdon and Grant are not traded. I feel like the returns would have people melting down even more.
     
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    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    But... That would be so shortsighted...
     
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    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    I think it's unlikely at this point. All the 'potential' target teams for Brogdon have made their moves already.

    Knicks, 76ers, Twolves

    I guess Pels are still out there, but that always felt like a long shot to me
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    There is no young talent available. Let’s see what the Heat do. Jovic? He probably is a rotation player and poor on defense but he is long
     
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    Predator The Godfather

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    As long as they maximize the minutes for the young guys, I don’t care

    but that won’t happen

    great developmental process cronut
     
  12. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Don't think there's even a 24 1st available for Brogdon. Definitely not for Matisse. So I think it's pretty clear we're standing pat.
     
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    why would Portland want a 3rd first round pick this year?
     
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    We don't.

    He's saying that even 'crappy' 24 picks are not available on the market. So there's no hope for a better pick in 25 or 26.
     
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    The thing about it is Buddy Hield got a return that I wouldn't be happy with for Malcolm but he's also not as versatile and only a one way player. I don't know at this point what team would want a big versatile two way PG like Malcolm but if they did want him I think they'd make that offer that's a tic up from what the Pacers got for Buddy. All I would need would be that tic up to a FRP that the Pacers didn't get.

    As far as Grant goes reportedly the Kings are very interested, Dallas is still in play and with the Gifford move they look like they want to take a big step up and Jerami might be able to do that for them.

    The fact is that both Malcolm and Jerami are on very reasonable deals that are not expiring so I legitimately feel like the offers for Malcolm would be higher than the offers for Buddy and Jerami has to be seen as doubly as valuable as Malcolm. We'll see over the next few hours. This is not a meltdown in and of itself but the continuation of the prelude to my actual meltdown scheduled for later today and that prelude has been burning for a couple weeks.
     
  16. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    What’s the alternative? We keep Brogdon and sign him to an extension?

    If we can’t even get a first for him, and value doesn’t improve this summer, the Dame haul is gonna look pretty mediocre in retrospect. Being able to flip Brogdon and maybe Williams for useful assets was a big part of what made that trade solid. The picks are still decent but it’s gonna look silly if we keep Brogdon. Unless we trade Simons this summer.
     
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    We still have a full year to trade Brogdon.... There is still time.

    but yes, in 18-months from now - you resign Brogdon to an extension if you can't find a trade.
     
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    Why would we have to sign Brogdan to an extension? He has a year left on his contract after this year. Trade him over the summer, next deadline? Just curious why you think he won't have any value as a expiring next year?
     
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    I was thinking 2025-2027 first's instead of 2024. Apparently the thinking is that none are available. I don't believe that; I think it's just an excuse for inertia

    I think the trade was a weak trade for Portland and a poor return for Dame. I may have thought better of it at the time than I do now but looking at the entire off-season and seeing the direction Portland is heading, or rather lack of direction, the return for trading Dame + Nurkic (and re-signing Grant) is making no sense at all to me. At least it makes no basketball-reasons sense...it probably makes a lot of Vulcan cash-flow sense
     
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    friendly reminder that we traded the best Player in franchise history to make Scoot the new PG of the future only to bench him for Malcolm Brogdon.
     
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