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  1. rotary111

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    Karl Malone?
    Stockton?
    Barkley?
    All cold blooded killers without a ring....IMO.
     
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    I would have gladly have taken Malone, Stockton, or Barkley over Reggie.

    If Reggie could have played defense like Klay, this is a different discussion. He was one of the weak links that was covered up by Smits, the Davis brothers, and Derrick McKey. Thompson guards the other teams best player frequently.
     
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    He has to differ because he plays with Steph Curry, while Reggie played with, uh, Rik Smits.

    You put Reggie on Golden State and it would be no different.
     
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    Yeah and look at what Klay did in last seasons playoffs when Currry was out. Averaged nearly 25 a game while shooting 3s at a 42% clip. Kid is a superstar.
     
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    I was also thinking that but they would have to offload significant amount of salary to be able to absorb Turner's contract. They won't give us someone like Smart because salaries won't match, not even Crowder (would love him in this team and would have been my first choice but he is on $7M). Maybe someone like Amir Johnson and Kelly Olynyk and we send back Turner and Plumlee, and both Boston players go to Sacramento. We add a pick, Aminu and Crabbe and Sacramento have to be happy with that.
     
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    selloutking BALL DON'T LIE!

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    disagree
    Reggie was a FAR better shit talker
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Okafor is getting 19MPG in Philly. He's almost certainly gettable.
     
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    IMO they will easily give us Noel for Crabbe, and adding a pick or another asset will get us Okafor (he will be more expensive because of his contract situation). He offers little defense though so we would need to bring in a power forward who does. Noel on the other hand will offer defense but not offense. Horses for courses.
     
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    So we start both Noel and Okafor! Sounds like a great pairing to me.

    Assuming we simply do a Crabbe/Noel swap, what would we have to include of Okafor? Aminu/Davis/Pick? That would leave us with Plumlee/Vonleh to back-up Noel/Okafor. Or if they want Vonleh we'd have Aminu/Plumlee as our back-ups. Seems weird to be sending bigs back to PHI, but aside from Crabbe/Turner/Harkless we don't have anything but bigs to trade, and we need to keep at least two of those wings unless we're getting a rotation wing back.
     
  10. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Damn dude that's harsh. Maybe that had something to do with being in a conference with the Jordan Bulls? Reggie was drafted in 1987 at 22 years old. Check out who the champions were in that time:

    87-88 - Lakers
    88-89 - Pistons
    89-90 - Pistons
    90-91 - Bulls
    91-92 - Bulls
    92-93 - Bulls

    So in five of Reggie's first six seasons, he was in the same conference as the eventual champs, and the one year that the Lakers won it, they beat the Badboy Pistons. The East was a rough conference back then. Reggie went from the Bird Celtics to the Badboys to the Bulls. When exactly was he supposed to win anything?
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    PHI isn't going to trade both Noel and Okafor. They want to trade one, or the other, to alleviate a surplus up front. If they trade them both, they'd go from a surplus of young post players to a shortage and the one they'd have left is injury prone.

    BNM
     
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    Crabbe for Noel seems pretty ideal for both teams on the surface but we do have to remember that Crabbe has a trade kicker which makes his contract even bigger. Maybe philly won't mind though, considering no impact FA would sign there willingly anyway.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    They are currently under the salary floor (I think by about $8 million) and about $16.5 million under the cap. A straight Crabbe for Noel swap, even with Crabbe's trade kicker, would put them a couple hundred thousand over the cap. They may want to swap a couple other end of bench guys to stay under the cap for future flexibility.

    BNM
     
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    They only lost in the first round to one of those dynasties once.

    88 and 89 Pacers do not even make the playoffs.
    90 Pacers are a seven seed. Do not expect him to beat the Badboys, but playing better in the regular season would have secured a better matchup,
    91 Pacers lose to the Celtics. The Larry Bird that was out there for that series was not the HOF Larry Bird. Celtics are bounced in the next round.
    92 Pacers swept by the Celtics. No Larry Bird. This is the Reggie Lewis, John Bagley, Kevin Gamble, and the ghosts of Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale. Celtics again bounce next round.
    93 Pacers are only good enough for an 8 seed. Lose to Knicks, who also do not make it to the finals.

    Again, I take Klay Thompson's resume at equal ages in their careers.
     
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    They would have to give Noel a $15M+ deal anyway to keep him and have a lot of cap space, for the next two years not even a mid-tier player like Crabbe would give them a look.
     
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    Sixers tried Noel and Okafor together. Did not work.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    So who exactly on those Pacers teams is supposed to be Draymond? Who is Curry? Klay Thompson is okay, but the Blazers legit had a shot at beating them without Curry last year. We were actually on our way to tying up the series until Curry went off in the 4th. Klay Thompson is a good player, but he's a borderline All-Star right now, and he probably won't make the team this year if he keeps this production up.
     
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    Those Pacer teams were designed to have Reggie score with all of the other players around him supporting. Klay has a better supporting cast, but is putting up similiar numbers. That is totally ignoring the defensive side of the ball, which Klay was worlds better.

    Klay is merely OK? The guy was voted #16 overall in the ESPN poll despite having a lower usage rate due to playing with other stars. Reggie only made the All Star team five times so missing it this year is not that big of deal.

    Klay also started out cold, but has been hot as of late. 23ppg shooting 12-19 from 3.
     
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    That's probably a Chinese knock off tennis shoe
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Which means he's definitely no Reggie Miller!
     
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