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Why don't people like him? There are a host of forum members who are adamantly against this Collins.

 

Doesn't play defense.
I tried to watch a couple of his games. The first one I watched, he only played like 10 minutes due to foul trouble. Didn't do anything to positively impact the game.

 

He plays as much defense as Amar'e after his surgeries. I dont know this for certain this is just his reputation but it sounds like he plays meyers level bad.

 

I have been asking myself this as well. I think people assume he can't play D????? but from what I read he has the athletic ability to be able to. Whether he did in college should not be a factor. He looks to be a decent shot blocker

 

Still think he could play the four. Not full time, but enough to profile next to nurkic.

 

What prospects did D69 tell you to watch out for this year?

 

His troubles are not in his athleticism but rather his BBIQ

 

I saw someone mention Batum as a comparison as a long dude who could create offense. I just don't see it. He's so much closer to Crabbe than he is Batum.

 

Disagree. Personalities are hard to change. If a player doesn't give a damn about D in college, it's tough to get them to care about it in the NBA.

Worse from what I saw.

 

Patton can shoot like Crabbe from the outside?

 

Ah, read that as Jackson. Sorry.

 

Ummmm Justin Patton is a center..........

 

Think people realized that his hype from HS was not warranted after his weak year last year. He's not as good a prospect as Mudiay or Jennings (others who left the country while skipping a year of college).

 

Sure if it is his true personality. But based on just watching Fultz at washington or Simmons at LSU I would then have to pass on both because their "personality " looked liked they were selfish and didn't give a fuck about winning. But in reality I would not pass on either.

 

Defense...poor rotations, gets completely lost, slow footwork and gets abused if taken out on the perimeter but it's no better down on the block. Just very poor defensively despite his offensive accomplishments.

 

I think we should wait to see how the draft plays out before making assumptions about what front offices actually think about him. What I'm saying is, fuck mocks. I'd be surprised if any of them got much right outside the top 5 picks.

 

So....DX currently has Frank Ntilikina dropping to us at 15. That would actually be insane.

He's completely miscast on this team, but that level of talent at 15 would be madness. Also I'm sure we could get a pretty penny if we decided to trade him.

 

Anyone but Ivan Rabb... that guy has no upside