Merged: The Draft Thread For Stuff About The Draft Including Thoughts About The Draft

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  1. Sarni

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    I think we will want to pick two players. We will do whatever in our power to move high enough to get Zach Collins - which would require us to be at least #10 and possibly even #9, but we will want to keep at least one of our lower picks or flip some assets for a second rounder because of how deep this draft is.

    Having looked at Kings forum, they do entertain idea of trading #10 and #34 for our three picks. This could be something that we might do but we will probably try to keep either #20 or #26.

    Good scenario for me is for us to get #10 through trading #15, #26 and one of Davis/Aminu, and then picking Zach Collins there with one of Anunoby or Justin Jackson somehow falling to #20.

    If we trade higher it will be for Jonathan Isaac. Nobody in position to draft Jayston Tatum or Josh Jackson will trade that pick and we do not need any of the guards available.
     
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    I think picking Collins at #10-12 and then another player at #20 gives us a good chance to get two players who will contribute.

    I somehow start feeling that drafting Collins is our goal. He just seems to fit this team so well and has a lot of talent. I also doubt he will go higher than #10 and we can get to #10 or #11 comfortably. Sacramento and Charlotte could use some of our assets. Hornets team is so short in quality that even Aminu or Harkless would be great for them.

    I have seen Isaac at #11 in one mock but I don't think it's likely at all.
     
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    Any given player dropping significantly isn't likely but, in a draft this good and deep, there's a good chance one or two players will be taken much higher than anyone expects and there will be a corresponding dropping of a player or two.

    I wouldn't be at all shocked to see a consensus top-ten player drop to near 15.
     
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    its funny, so many seem to think "collins" is our guy, I just don't feel that way in the sense we'd try to move up aggressively to get him. If he fell to 15 or we could move up a few spots by giving up a small amount them maybe okay, just my take
     
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    I think the play is attempt to move up to 6-10 and Issacs is the target. I think the twolves are the best partner, with sac and Orlando being the next best targets.
     
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    Ibaka totally different case and was arguably a GM trying to save his job. It's not known Ibaka wants to be a Laker, or on a team competing for championships, and Ibaka wasn't vocal about these issues, nor was Ibaka on a scrub 8th seed team getting waxed yearly. The market for Paul George is probably fairly small, in my opinion. The Knicks nor Suns are on that list. Any assets they can offer, wipe out any reason for him to stay. Boston, Portland, Lakers, Miami are the only teams off the top of my head who would be in the market and Boston might be a stretch with Hayward possibly and Miami probably isn't on that list either. I personally believe the reason so many teams risk it is because the trade market is so limited to they only get horseshit offers.

    What kind of offers do you think we would've gotten for Aldridge if we were a 7th/8th seed/missing playoffs, it was known he wanted to leave for San Antonio, unless he could go to a team that was a championship contender with him and had one year to prove it? Probably not a whole lot, if I were to guess.
     
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    I agree. I like him and I would certainly give up certain players to move up, but if we gave up Harkless I would rather move up to draft a SF. Then we could take a PF with #20. Aminu on the other hand I would give to move up for Zach.

    I like the idea of drafting Zach because he fills two needs, back up center, and down the road starting PF. I will assume he will get stronger. People knock Leaf for not being strong enough and that is true for now. But both are young and both will need time to mature physically in order to bang with the big boys in the association.

    Keep in mind Zach only average 17 minutes per game in college.
     
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    I really want to take a shot at Bolden, especially at 26 if we think he's there, Leaf may not be a bad fit, I am not against him just really don't have a good feel
     
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    If we arent one piece away, the best strategy is to build and wait.
     
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    You really don't think Curry/Thompson and Lillard/McCollum are close?

    Lillard and McCollum per 36 combined stats: 50.3ppg, 9.6apg, 8.6rpg, 46% FG, 40% 3pt,
    Curry and Thompson per 36 combined stats: 51.0ppg, 9.3apg, 8.7rpg, 46% FG, 41% 3pt,
    That's about as close as you can get offensively. They get the slight edge because Klays a better defender than the other 3.

    While Durant is a much better offensive player than George, George is a better defender. Durant has a slight edge accordingly.

    Nurkic is better than Green. I won't even get into that.
     
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    Acquiring that one piece (Paul George) will allow us to acquire other pieces (vet FAs, upgrades via trade) to complete the puzzle.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    I agree with much of this, but as much as I dislike Draymond, he is a hell of a player and really helps them win. Nurk is young and really has room to improve, but for now, Draymond is the better player.
     
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    All we have to do is compare stats form Nurks time in Portland to see how even they are (with Nurkic being better IMO).

    Nurk per 36 stats in POR: 18.7ppg, 12.8rpg, 3.9apg, 2.3blks, 55TS%, +3.8DBPM
    Dray per 36 stats in 2017: 11.3ppg, 8.7rpg, 7.8apg, 1.5blks. 52TS%, +5.0 DBPM
     
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    Get.
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    Topic.
    Wtf.
     
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    assholes.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    This.

    I also saw one mock with Minnesota taking Collins at 6. If that happened, I'd be all over trying to trade for Dieng.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    The Ringer's comparison for Mushidi: Taller Derek Fisher

    A total upside pick -- if he stays in the draft.
     
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    That's a garbage comp. garbage.

    Mushidi is more of a Wes Matthews.
     

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