Merged: Wallace and Butler and RJeff, oh, my!

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  1. BoBoBREWSKI

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    Re: Wallace vs Butler, who should KP get?

    Can we merge all the Caron/Wallace/Jefferson threads into one?
     
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    Re: Wallace vs Butler, who should KP get?

    Congratulations. But you say that almost every post outside of saying how horrid our team is.

    Anyway, I vote for Wallace. I think his fit is much better. He is younger and wouldn't cost us Bayless. We would probably only have to give up Sergio and webster for him, which actually helps our team a lot because of the consolidation. We might have to take back Nazr, but meh... I think we'd be ok. He can also play some backup 4 for us, and doesn't hardly need the ball to be effective, which I like. He is a defensive stopper. Butler may be the better overall player but IDK if his skill set is exactly what we need, specially if we'd have to give up Bayless. Wallace is also a very good rebounder which would be an awesome plus (Butler is also good, just not as good).

    But either one would be great, imo.... I strongly don't want Jefferson though.

    Next year's starting lineup of... Bayless/Roy/Wallace/Aldridge/Oden would be killer...
     
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    Re: Wallace vs Butler, who should KP get?

    I like all 3 and would be happy with any of them. Wallace would be the best match for our team though. You don't need to run any plays for him, he just gets it done on both ends of the court.
     
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    Re: Wallace vs Butler, who should KP get?


    +Juan.

    HCP, can you get Harlow's #?:pimp:
     
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    Re: Wallace vs Butler, who should KP get?

    def butler...having one fragile player is enough. wallace is always hurt
     
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    Re: Wallace vs Butler, who should KP get?

    I agree but wouldn't be upset with either Wallace or RJ. The only problem I can see with trading for Butler is we would have to give up a lot more and I would hate to give Up Bayless and/or Rudy which it would probably take to get Butler.
     
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    Re: Wallace vs Butler, who should KP get?

    Roy was just recently quoted that he would love to have another offensive creator on the court with him (he was specifically talking about Chris Paul); I really think he is getting tired of carrying all the load. Having another creator also might leave some energy for Roy to play better defense.
     
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    Re: Blazers have intensified their focus on Wallace

    That can't be true! Adrian Wojnarowski said that Pritchard and the Blazers would be blackballed for the Miles email. :confused:

    Nice try, "Woj".
     
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    Re: Wallace vs Butler, who should KP get?

    Based on what I just saw from the vidieo posted on one of the threads today of Wallace: If we can keep Batum we probably need to do this deal.

    It will probably cost less in personnel (outlaw) and Walloace-Batum becomes a very good tandum. Wow!

    Wallace can help out bringing the ball up court with the gaurds if they get trapped bringing the ball up court. Outlaw is just too risky with this help. The team would flow very well IMO. However I say this with out much reference to Butler.

    Can someone post both players U-tube vidios so we (I) can compare?
     
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    Re: Wallace vs Butler, who should KP get?

    heres the deal we should do to get butler

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...4~2015~3025&teams=22~22~22~27~27~27&te=&cash=

    and if we have to move bayless then we do. another guy people in here are in love with who looks average at best. theres a reason all those PGs were picked ahead of him. HES NOT A PG...but A Sg. hes a better version of jack cause of his defense. well his defense will be better then jacks eventually. If im being honest, jack would have helped us so much more his year.
     
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    Re: Wallace vs Butler, who should KP get?

    I vote Wallace. I love defense and he's fantastic at it. I also love that he plays well off the ball.

    Damn! It's like Christmas has come early.
     
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    Re: Wallace vs Butler, who should KP get?

    While I think Wallace is a fantastic fit for this team's needs, particularly considering his contract, he's way too injury prone for my tastes. Therefore, I'd prefer Butler (who's just a better all around player in my opinion anyways). I still don't understand why Washington would want to move him, but if he's available I don't think this team could do any better.
     
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    Chad Ford: Three players on Pritchard's radar screen

    Take it for what it's worth, since it's Chad Ford, but ...

    -Pop
     
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    Re: Wallace vs Butler, who should KP get?

    if you read the article... it says all these deals are IFFY


    Wallace deal is IFFY because we would have to take Nazi back which is an UGLY UGLY contract.


    Butler deal is iffy because we would have to take ethan thomas and give up 2 youthful players. ALSO THE WIZ ARENT EVN SUR ETHEY WANNA TRADE BUTLER!

    Jefferson Fall back option



    Basically at this point i think translation is this....

    KP wants Butler or Wallace and teh Jefferson trade will happen if he gets neither. The Jefferson deal is basically if all else fails.... we still get a really good SF and backup PG.

    It seems like a win win no matter what.
     
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    Re: Chad Ford: Three players on Pritchard's radar screen

    I'm not gonna lie. That article made me giddy.
     
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    Re: Chad Ford: Three players on Pritchard's radar screen

    Merge alert!
     
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    Re: Chad Ford: Three players on Pritchard's radar screen

    My bad. Mods, please merge.

    -Pop
     
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    Re: Chad Ford: Three players on Pritchard's radar screen

    like i just said in another thread....


    Butler and Wallace are the top 2 targets. Problem is they want us to take bad contracts back while giving up youth.

    Jefferson is the last resort. If both of the above fail.... hes our new SF. Thats how i see it this AM.
     
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    Re: Wallace vs Butler, who should KP get?

    butler has missed more time in the last 2 years than wallace. neither player has been particularly durable, so no real advantage there.
     
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    Re: Blazers have intensified their focus on Wallace

    Health issues aside, I'd rather get Wallace over Butler as he plays better off the ball and is three years younger.

    That said, the health issues Wallace has are pretty scary.
     

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