Merged: Why is Oden in Indiana?

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  1. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    Meanwhile, Durant would slit your throat to win a game. As it turns out,Oden is a very Portlandish person. Let's get him some Xanax so he can be like everybody else here.
     
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    Everyone's a Judge. It's ironic considering nobody has any clue what its like to be in his position. While there truly is only one Judge I believe its good for Greg and all the hate will fuel him to become great

    Meanwhile, Durant would not kill a fly talk about nice guy
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Ugh, talk about being mentally fragile!
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    Totally. I mean, can't anyone on this forum have the self-control NOT to speculate wildly about a guy's though processes? Have some intellectual fortitude, guys!
     
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    I actually agree with this in that injuries will always be a concern for me, or at least until he has 3 consecutive 72+ games played seasons. I expect 16 and 12 for averages going forward with 2.5 to 3.5 blocks and .650+ FG% I also expect ELITE defensive rating/rebound rate. Oden is what he is. He is enough to be a linch pin defensive presence. On the upside he could become an unstoppable scorer in the middle. On the downside he could be hurt every year from here on out. I'm also concerned about lazy fouls.

    Truth be told we won't know until the future unfolds. What I DO know is everyone said all this same garbage last summer and he was pretty dominant when he could stay on the floor.
     
  7. SlyPokerDog

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    In the end, I don't think there is a poster on this board that will have a problem with Oden if he comes here next year and continues his play where he left off.

    But it sure would be nice if he publically showed a little more interest in the team.
     
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    Yes, some of us did say such things last summer....and we were correct.
     
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    This is a major difference between me and fans like you (which I don't mean judgmentally, just noting that there are plenty of others who would agree with you). I really don't care about "what player X could have been if only." This is a major divide among Blazers fan when it comes to Rasheed Wallace. Some of us just stick to the bottom line results and say "Wallace was a good to very good player for the Blazers and helped the team win games." These fans tend to appreciate the fact that Wallace was on the team. Other fans say, "Wallace could have been great/a superstar/as good as Tim Duncan had he simply cared more." These fans generally (I can't claim anything is universal) have a great disdain for Wallace and blame him for not being what they thought he could have been.

    Relating this back to Oden, all I care about is what he ends up producing. If his purported lack to team spirit leads to him being a subpar player, I won't think much of him...not because of his lack of team spirit, but what it resulted in. Mediocre results. If he's a superstar without ever waving a towel in appreciation for his teammates, I'll be a big fan of his. Because, again, that's where the results lead me. And, of course, there are a whole host of possibilities in between, which will lead to varying degrees of appreciation by me.

    What will never be a consideration to me is "Now what could Oden/the Blazers have been if Oden visibly cared more?" Maybe your worries are founded, maybe Oden's lack of visual interest shows a lesser dedication which leads him to be less than he could have been. Maybe even if he ends up a 25 PER player and a DPOY candidate, he could have been Shaq with great defense had he cared more. I don't care. One could always posit a player/team could have been more if only...something. It's really not of interest to me...what is of interest to me is what the player/team actually end up being/doing.

    Why are we trying to "figure that out?" We have no bearing on it. We're not coaches or team officials. If we were, then I would care, because my actions could change something. Since we're not part of the process, it doesn't seem relevant to me whether my attitude is conducive to problem-solving. We have no power to solve problems. Our role is to comment on what ends up happening. You can, of course, spend that commenting time on whatever you consider important...and you clearly consider this to be of some import. I just don't. I'm not really trying to convince you that it isn't important...I'm just explaining why it's not important to me.
     
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    Oden on Wheels at Work said he'll be back in Portland on Thursday.

    Lets hope he gets to see some playoff games at the RG.
     
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    Does anyone know if Oden is on the playoff roster?
     
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    I don't think there are such things as "playoff rosters" any more.

    Any player among the 15 can be deemed active or inactive jjust hours before tipoff.
     
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    Didn't the fact that Oden constantly apolgized to all of his teammates and the GM after both injuries indicate maybe he cares......even a little bit???? He kept saying he let everyone down, something out of his control. Seems like he cares to me. I think its funny to try and guess how much a guy cares when you don't even know him.
     
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    http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/4/27/1448044/greg-oden-talks-rehab-weight-roy
     
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    I gotta say it is a bit odd that hasn't been with the team. I know he's "rehabbing" at home on the couch, but damn man. Doesn't seem like he's close to anyone on the team. I guess being out of lineup 2 out of 3 years may do that to you, not really sure.
     
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    Man he's hopping around on one fucking leg up the stairs? Just what we need is him tumbling down the stairs backwards and tearing an ACL. Can anyone imagine watching a 7'0 285lb guy trying to hop up the stairs on one leg, it's ludicrous. And we think this guy is going to pick up where he left off earlier this season? He was timid as hell when he got hurt before. He probably won't trust his body again any sooner than us. Hopefully in the summer he can make some serious strides or we're screwed.
     
  18. SlyPokerDog

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    I think he would come in and out of the tunnel with the rest of his teammates. Honestly from where the players park to sitting behind the bench there are no stairs for Oden to hop up, down or fall from.
     
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    I heard Oden's interview on the The Game today on "The Greg Oden Show". He showed up late, and he had the personality of a burlap sack during his "show". As I've said earlier, get this guy some Xanax or Wellbutrin. I'm going to guess that Durant's playoff performance is putting even more pressure on this guy's apparent fragile psyche.
     
  20. jlprk

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    Informative interview. It sure is a coincidence that after all these months he will suddenly attend Game 6, barely in time before the season ends. I might think he has read criticism of his attendance, on this or another board--if I thought he ever read anything about basketball. He says he isn't doing any basketball things, and has had no communication with any of his teammates for months. He watched the game on national TV but got up while we were shooting so well in the 1st couple of minutes, spent time in the kitchen, didn't return till we were in trouble, and was surprised at how the game had turned around in the minutes he missed. He says he has no analysis to offer of the series. He is unable to refer to any specifics (of events or of what we should improve), which makes sense since he said in the previous interview that his only knowledge of games is from what his friends tell him (the ones interested enough to pay for TV, or at least to read the free boxscores and play-by-play on the internet).

    I see no interest in his employer, although he gladly receives hundreds of thousands of dollars per month from Paul Allen. I have a question for you sympathizers who worry about how sweet and sensitive he is--have you ever held a job? Longer than it takes to get fired? How did you do it, with your anti-work ethic attitude?
     

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