Actually, we did win. It was won until Obama surrendered on our behalf. By no measure was it a loss, except for the number of people unhappy we won.
Like I said, you're the master of revisionist history. How do you call it a win when the country could not "succeed" (and hasn't) without our actual presence?? Once we more or less left the country (because the majority of Americans wanted us out) it all fell back to shit. The senior Bush (and anyone with even half a brain) saw that coming. The war in Iraq was (and still is) unwinnable by any definition of the word. How do you define a "win" in this instance Denny? Maybe your pathological dislike of Obama coupled with your fascination for labeling dissenters "losers" blinds you to to the actual reality......
Well, we won, you're the one doing the revision. Plain as day. There are two wins in Iraq. We achieved regime change and arrested Saddam. Mission Accomplished, remember? I define a win as virtually no violence in the country, no ISIS, Al Qaeda crushed - that was the case when Obama took office. Only slightly more violence there than in the state of California at the time. Roughly 4,000 civilian deaths the two years before Obama surrendered. http://www.msnbc.com/all/california-did-tough-gun-control-laws-cut Gun violence across California dropped 56% from 5,500 gun deaths in 1993 to 2,935 in 2010, according to the study, which took into account California’s expanded population from about 30 to 37 million people over the same period.
