Meyers Leonard treated like a "McMillan"

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Nate Dogg

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I'm getting the feeling that Meyers Leonard will be treated like under the "McMillan" system and only get spare minutes in Blazer blow out games. I understand that both Leonard and Freeland are considered under Lopez as the starting center. But really, how is our #11 2012 draft pick going to get experienced? I am having the feeling that he will become unhappy and move after his third year in Portland. And he will probably get better statistics with another team after that.

I want Meyers Leonard to be played more instead of another untested player on our bench.
 
Nate Dogg said:
I'm getting the feeling that Meyers Leonard will be treated like under the "McMillan" system and only get spare minutes in Blazer blow out games. I understand that both Leonard and Freeland are considered under Lopez as the starting center. But really, how is our #11 2012 draft pick going to get experienced? I am having the feeling that he will become unhappy and move after his third year in Portland. And he will probably get better statistics with another team after that.

I want Meyers Leonard to be played more instead of another untested player on our bench.
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hopefully he'll get a shitload of minutes in BOISE
 
He needs to be shipped to Boise to our D league, it's a no brainer to play freeland.
 
Definitely put him in the D-League where he can get minutes. Hopefully after half a season there he'll have improved enough where we can play him in NBA games.
 
Nate Dogg said:
I'm getting the feeling that Meyers Leonard will be treated like under the "McMillan" system and only get spare minutes in Blazer blow out games. I understand that both Leonard and Freeland are considered under Lopez as the starting center. But really, how is our #11 2012 draft pick going to get experienced? I am having the feeling that he will become unhappy and move after his third year in Portland. And he will probably get better statistics with another team after that.

I want Meyers Leonard to be played more instead of another untested player on our bench.
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Minutes are earned. Freeland is earning them. Leonard is not.
 
Has D-League started yet? And if so, why is Leonard not there? He really needs game experience, but not at the Blazers expense.
 
Honestly I'm not too concerned either way as long as freeland is healthy (knock on wood)
 
This is what happens when you are trying to win and you have an undeveloped big man. It's what happened with Jermaine, not that Freeland is Jermaine, but it's difficult to play big guys that constantly make mistakes.
 
Natebishop3 said:
This is what happens when you are trying to win and you have an undeveloped big man. It's what happened with Jermaine, not that Freeland is Jermaine, but it's difficult to play big guys that constantly make mistakes.
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Lopez & Freeland are not close to the level of Sabonis & Brian Grant.

Meyers entered the NBA three years older than Jermaine.

I'm more concerned about Victor Claviers lack of minutes. Leonard was a mistaken lottery pick with multiple blatant flaws in his game. Clavier has played great in the NBA he just struggled to make shots. Victor contributes many intangibles to help a team.
 
Draco said:
Lopez & Freeland are not close to the level of Sabonis & Brian Grant.

Meyers entered the NBA three years older than Jermaine.

I'm more concerned about Victor Claviers lack of minutes. Leonard was a mistaken lottery pick with multiple blatant flaws in his game. Clavier has played great in the NBA he just struggled to make shots. Victor contributes many intangibles to help a team.
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relative to each other (i.e., Lopez and Freeland to Meyers is similar to Sabonis and Grant to Jermaine), tho, I think the comparison is apt.
 
Draco said:
Meyers entered the NBA three years older than Jermaine.
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What's weird about O'Neal is that he only had 4 seasons with a PER above 20, and two of those were with 44 and 51 games.

Perhaps one of the most overrated 'mistakes' in Blazer history. He just wasn't as good as the max money he was paid by Indiana. The contract he signed for the 2003-04 season was just mindboggling, considering it was a 6 year deal, and he sucked for most of it.
 
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I still think the Blazers will need another big if they want to go far. Freeland and Lopez just isn't enough and Leonard just isn't good enough right now.
 
Draco said:
Lopez & Freeland are not close to the level of Sabonis & Brian Grant.

Meyers entered the NBA three years older than Jermaine.

I'm more concerned about Victor Claviers lack of minutes. Leonard was a mistaken lottery pick with multiple blatant flaws in his game. Clavier has played great in the NBA he just struggled to make shots. Victor contributes many intangibles to help a team.
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Who would you have taken instead of Leonard?

Jared Sullinger is about the only guy who is producing. The rest are a list of garbage that will most likely be out of the league in a few years.
 
We are winning and Freeland is playing well. What's there to complain about? There will be (hopefully minor) injuries and Leonard will get his time.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Who would you have taken instead of Leonard?

Jared Sullinger is about the only guy who is producing. The rest are a list of garbage that will most likely be out of the league in a few years.
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At the time I wanted Jeremy Lamb. John Henson, Tony Wroten, Miles Plumlee, Festius Ezeli would be big upgrades.

But I don't expect teams to bat 1000. Sometimes you get a great buy like Lillard who is way better than people thought and sometimes you get a player like Leonard who is way worse. Once you see a player for a few years you can make a far better judgement of their skillset, position, and future in the league. If Leonard was signed as a 15th roster spot free agent this offseason fans wouldn't have this desire to have him get minutes, the draft pick we used on him is a sunk cost so its time to move on. No player deserves minutes solely because of their acquistion cost; they deserve minutes based off their contributions to the team and their possible improvement in the future.
 
Draco said:
At the time I wanted Jeremy Lamb. John Henson, Tony Wroten, Miles Plumlee, Festius Ezeli would be big upgrades.

But I don't expect teams to bat 1000. Sometimes you get a great buy like Lillard who is way better than people thought and sometimes you get a player like Leonard who is way worse. Once you see a player for a few years you can make a far better judgement of their skillset, position, and future in the league. If Leonard was signed as a 15th roster spot free agent this offseason fans wouldn't have this desire to have him get minutes, the draft pick we used on him is a sunk cost so its time to move on. No player deserves minutes solely because of their acquistion cost; they deserve minutes based off their contributions to the team and their possible improvement in the future.
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He needs to go to Boise. Freeland outplayed his minutes. Boise is where he needs to be. Period.

As far as the players you would take, I would be for most of those, but it'd be interesting to see where Plumlee would fit in. It could have been possible that he'd be in the same boat given Freeland's play... and that'd be the same for any drafted C out of that class.
 
Probably the new trainer's fault. He corrals the luggage and lugs the horses.
 
As a fan, it is hard to watch Meyers. His silly fouls and subsequent look of disbelief drive me up the wall. Freeland busted his ass this summer and deserves the minutes.
 
Agreed that Claver has more reason to complain than Leonard. I wonder if he'll follow the Rudy/Navarro route back to Spain after this year.

The main issue is that Stotts is still playing his starters too much so there just aren't that many minutes to spare.
 
Meyers should be playing every game until he gets at least 4 or 5 fouls. 25-30 minutes a game if the refs let him play.
 
MARIS61 said:
Meyers should be playing every game until he gets at least 4 or 5 fouls. 25-30 minutes a game if the refs let him play.
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This is the worst idea I've seen on this board in a long, long time. Congratulations.
 
LOL. No, Meyers has shown he should not be playing right now. I have not written him off, however. He is a long term project. He has at least another year to show whether he is worth extending and whether he should be groomed as a PF or a Center.

Honestly, TRob isn't all that at the moment either. His decision making is pretty bad. I'd like to see how Meyers does playing PF.
 
As much as I am against giving up on him. I also believe he needs to earn his time. He can do this on the practice and game court. I think he is still a bit mature and I'm not sure they have the right prescription for him when it comes to a big man coach. I think the right coach could get it out of him.
 
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