Bargnani averaged 21 ppg. Meyers averaged 5 last year and 8 this year. Bargnani had a career PER of 14.4 with a high of 17.9. Meyers has a career PER of 12.2 with a high of 14.8. Bargnani has a block rate of 2.4%. Meyers is 1.5%. Meyers has a long ways to go to prove he's the player Bargnani was.
How bad do you have to be to play PF/C, score 21 PPG, and have a PER of ~16? I think he just took a lot of shots and sucked at everything else basketball.
Bargnani. You can shut him down by having Kaman stand next to him at the 3pt line. He was the first overall pick in a really weak draft. He got to start for a terrible team as the #1 option. Meyers didn't have that opportunity.
With his season ending injury I doubt he will get max...though I doubt a dislocated shoulder is a hard injury to come back from...Meyers will get offered too much...Blazers will wait till everyone tips their hand and then hopefully fold...its too much money for such a question mark...he's had ample time to prove himself and has made little improvement...waive bye bye to Meyers
If Meyers signs an offer, the Blazers will be on the clock to decide to match. The very worst thing that can happen to the Blazers, as far as FA and cap space, is someone makes Crabbe a big offer right away. The best thing for the Blazers would be to extend him after using as much cap space as possible. Food for thought.
Yes if we need the cap space this summer; and if that need is beyond the first 3 days free agents sign when historically 95% of free agent deals are already agreed to. If we don't need all $90 million of salary cap room it really doesn't matter when our player sign. That's the far more likely outcome.
You don't pay your 3rd (4th if you count Aminu or Harkless at the 4) best big that much money. Pay him more than Ed Davis???
I hope we bring him back. I don't think he's going to get the big payday everyone is worried about. And even though his individual contributions were disappointing, we often played better as a team with him on the floor. I'd feel a lot better about the POs if Meyers was healthy.
It seems to me that the best combination of talent and flexibility is to be between the cap and LT. The Heat with LeBron had a really hard time adding players beyond the 3 because they had to get really far under the cap to sign the 3 and had nobody, really, to trade and nobody with sizable contract to trade.
I think we've seen Ed's ceiling. Meyers' ceiling seems still pretty high in comparison. Plus market forces. Supply of available 7' guys who shoot 3s is not so big.
Thats the key; some of us don't believe Meyers can ever be a quality starter in this league. Guys like Harkless, Vonleh, and Crabbe still realistically have that potential. Meyers is older than all of them, and has proven less on the court than all of them. If you expect differently than it changes the contract Meyers should get. But if he doesn't have starter upside, and isn't a proven backup, is that an investment with more upside than downside?
I just hope we don't give Meyers a contract that isn't easily tradable. I feel the only ceiling he's going to hit is the one on his house.
Yeah, I expect differently. They took a college C and are making him into a stretch PF. I think we see he's decent enough playing post defense like a C. He's showing he might not be too shabby at PF. It takes time. It took Pippen several seasons to become a quality PG.
I don't want to overpay Meyers, but I was thinking how nice it would have been to have him back up the center spot in the OKC game the other night. He wouldn't have stopped Enis, but I bet Enis would have had less than 30/20. Meyers is the biggest mobile body we have on the team. Even without his 3pt shot he has something that is useful.
Yep, Meyers is a role player that plays multiple roles. He spreads the floor on offense - and while his individual numbers aren't particularly great and he averages about 1.5 brain farts/36, all the team metrics show the TEAM plays better when he's on the floor. On defense, he has proven effective guarding (and frustrating) big body, low post centers (like Gasol and Cousins). I know there aren't a lot of those left in the league, but it sure is nice to have a big body to throw at them when we play those teams. The question is how much is that kind of role player worth in today's NBA? As I mentioned in an earlier post, with the cap going way up, the days of 8-figure contracts being reserved for superstars and solid starters are a thing of the past. Soon, you'll see every rotation player in the top 8 or 9 making >$10 million/year. Given his size, age, shooting ability, etc., I suspect Meyers will be one of those role players whose next contract averages > $10 million per year. BNM
