Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement!

Even John Cusack has had enough...

 

Any chance you can send me whatever it is you've been smoking? The stuff we get here is apparently nowhere near as good as the stuff you're getting.......

 

This is utterly grotesque. If you're an apologist for this stuff, I have no problem calling you out as a disgusting, evil piece of garbage.

 

Your comment, along with the 3 likes you got, show how indeed this is an echo chamber.
Feel free to disagree with me, but no need for the personal smirking 'smoking' comments..
Here:
Have some counter balancing info - of what I am smoking:

 

Wrong to attack civilians and deny them food and water.

 

Stop? Stop what? Stop cooperating with nuclear inspectors?

That definitely seems like it backfired.

 

A. There is a difference between attacking civilians (i.e Oct 7th) and civilians being hurt during war.
B. Hamas is soon to release the hostages as it finallly realises it has lost/is losing/will continue to lose. (May take aprox. two to three months - that is my assumption if things progress 'quickly'...)
C. Once all hostages are released - Mark my comment / screenshot it, the begining of a brighter future for Gazan people will commence.
Until then - I have no sympathy for people holding hostages the same as people here have no sympathy for the Israeli side.. that is fine.

 

You believe the inspectors know things the intelligence agencies don't? That is quite naive.
It has not backfired - if they resume any foul activity - they will be easly attacked again and again. The messege is very clear. Just like Hizballa is still getting his rockets shelters destroyed, so will Iran keep getting their foul nuclear facilities destroyed. Want a different future? Come to the table and discuss with Trump how you can prosper and gain financial future while not calling for hate and destruction of other people. Gl.

 

The civilians aren't holding anybody hostage. They wanted Hamas replaced just as much as Israel wanted Netanyahu replaced.

We shouldn't support Israel attacking and torturing civilians any more than we should support Hamas doing it on Oct 7th (or any other time).

We should be pressuring both Hamas and Netanyahu to be more peaceful or else to be replaced.

 

You can't forcibly stop Iran from making nukes without occupying that country.

And good luck with that.

If they want nukes they're going to get them. They haven't historically wanted nukes.

Russia, Israel and the US have given Iran and every other country more motivation to develop nukes than they've ever had.

This has backfired in a huge way. Except that it has made war more likely. Which is what Netanyahu and Putin require to maintain power.

Trump is just dumb enough to help give it to them. Or corrupt enough to follow their strategy to hang on to power here in the US as well.

Everything about this is corrupt and evil.

 

I disagree entirely with this state of mind..

"If they want nukes they're going to get them. They haven't historically wanted nukes."

According to this logic whoever wants nukes should and could get it. No prob.

"They wanted Hamas replaced just as much as Israel wanted Netanyahu replaced."

I have yet to see or hear any consensus among Palestinians claiming they want Hamas replaced.

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May 7, 2025 | Flash Brief
Large Minority Wants to Leave Gaza as Hamas Popularity Declines, New Poll of Palestinians Finds



Latest Developments

• Hamas Approval Declines Steadily: Hamas remains more popular than its nationalist rival Fatah in both Gaza and the West Bank despite its approval rating declining overall to 57 percent, down from 75 percent in June 2024. In Gaza, where the Iran-backed terrorist group has ruled since 2007, its approval rating is just 43 percent. However, Fatah and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas fared even more poorly among those polled, with 81 percent of respondents calling for Abbas to resign. In tandem, the number of Palestinians who believe that the Hamas assault of October 7, 2023 was “correct” has declined to just 50 percent, with 59 percent of West Bank respondents and just 38 percent of Gaza respondents expressing agreement.

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/0...rity-declines-new-poll-of-palestinians-finds/

Bibi seems to have approval rating of around 45% in Israel today according to this link:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1482429/israel-public-approval-rating-of-benjamin-netanyahu/

So all in all -
Hamas 57 (going down from 75)
Bibi 45 (going up from 41)


You are basing your views under premise and foundations that IMO are just not close to objective/factual.

 

Uncomfortable facts...

 

Yes, that is now. After the warlords set about torturing each other's populations in an attempt to drum up support among their subjects.

Even immediately after October 7th they wanted Netanyahu gone.

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/11/1211767117/israel-netanyahu-growing-opposition-hamas-war-gaza

 

They wanted him gone, but not because of apartheid or genocide, the majority wants more of that.

 

Yeah. This is a great example of what I keep saying.

At the bottom of the page it says:

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So - do you actually expect an objective view / reporting on the matter?

1. I Tried really hard but couldn't find the actual poll/published article. Please try and read the source material before reaching conclusions. I saw it referencing an article in HAARETZ (far left journal in Israel), but the article is kept for subscribers only. I looked for Hebrew articles referencing this poll and couldn't find anything yet - will keep looking.

2. The phrasing is important. I can totally believe a poll asking Israeli people if they think the people of Gaza are not innocent. Are there specific people that are innocent - of course. but as a society in total - as I have said here before - the trust between peoples is at historical low for good reasons. I wouldn't be much surprised to learn Palestinians think the same about Israelis - those genocidal occupiers aggressors..
So lets not try and make extremists more extreme.

A funny note I noticed in the provided articles just show how much this is brainwash hogwash. I will add it here and ask if anyone here can identify why this claim is just propaganda lies:

"64% of Israelis agree with this statement, almost two out of three. But it is actually considerably higher among Jewish Israelis, because that number is heavily weighted by Palestinians with Israeli citizenship. Palestinians make up about 20% of the Israeli population and 92% of them oppose the statement, so that leaves Jewish Israelis with overwhelming support.1"


I will answer:

There is no such thing as a "Palestinian with Israeli Citizenship".
and If you are currently struggling to understand this claim, I will be happy to debate and further explain it.

 

How many will actually be left?

 

If they release the hostages today - probably 2 million..
If they release them in 3 months? Probably 2 million..
If they release them in 6 months?
Probably 2 million..
If the war ends in a year or two?
Probably 2.1+ million..

Again - screenshot my comments and feel free to correct me when time comes...

 

In this situation, I'm not at all looking for some internet gotcha. Not wanting to prove anyone right or wrong. Thousands upon thousands upon thousands of innocent lives have been ended because of a "war on terror". We americans have seen that justification before. Let's kill and kill and kill because amongst them are bad people. It's sad and horrific. But hey, maybe if we kill a few more, you'll have beach front property?!

 

Its probably a fun habbit quoting a media channel that has around 6% ratings and represents the most extreme minority in Israel and then claiming 'This Is Israel".
If anything, this channel is more of an evidence for Israel being a country allowing free speech.
To clarify my point here is an anecdote:

#DefundThePolice" Movement (2020)
What seemed to be the majority idea:
During the height of the George Floyd protests in 2020, the hashtag #DefundThePolice trended heavily on Twitter and Instagram. It was amplified by activists, influencers, and some public figures. On social media, it gave the impression that a majority of Americans supported completely defunding or abolishing the police.

What was actually true:
Polling at the time showed that only a small minority of Americans actually supported the idea of fully defunding the police. Even among African American communities — the group most directly affected by police violence — most people supported police reform or better accountability, not elimination of police funding.

For example:

• A June 2020 Pew Research Center poll found that while 67% of Americans supported some kind of police reform, only 15% supported reducing police funding.
  
  
• Many Democratic leaders distanced themselves from the slogan, stating it didn’t reflect their actual policies or the views of most constituents.
  

Why the mismatch?

• Social media platforms tend to amplify extreme or emotionally charged views, and algorithms prioritize engagement — not representativeness.
  
  
• A small number of users generate a large percentage of content (on Twitter, around 10% of users create 80% of tweets).
  
  
• This vocal minority can create a false consensus effect, where it seems everyone agrees when in fact most people don’t.