It's the religious fanatics that take it to extremes even to the point of killing those that dont believe their way.
Both Hamas and the Israeli government are genocidal, far-right, theocratic assholes who want nothing more than to kill their way to an ethnostate. We shouldn't be carrying water for either of them.
Israeli hostages killed in Gaza were holding white flag, official says JERUSALEM, Dec 16 (Reuters) - Three Israeli hostages killed mistakenly in Gaza by Israeli forces had been holding up a white flag, a military official said on Saturday, citing an initial inquiry into the incident that has shaken the country. A soldier saw the hostages emerging tens of metres from Israeli forces on Friday in Shejaiya, an area of intense combat in northern Gaza where Hamas militants operate in civilian attire and use deception tactics, the official said. "They're all without shirts and they have a stick with a white cloth on it. The soldier feels threatened and opens fire. He declares that they're terrorists. They (the Israeli forces) open fire. Two (hostages) are killed immediately," the official told reporters in a phone briefing. The third hostage was wounded and retreated into a nearby building where he called for help in Hebrew, the official said. "Immediately the battalion commander issues a ceasefire order, but again there's another burst of fire towards the third figure and he also dies," the official said. "This was against our rules of engagement," he added. The military on Friday identified the three hostages killed in Shejaiya, an eastern suburb of Gaza City, as Yotam Haim and Alon Shamriz, abducted from Kibbutz Kfar Aza, and Samer Al-Talalka, abducted from nearby Kibbutz Nir Am. https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...-holding-white-flag-official-says-2023-12-16/
This story just keeps getting worse... Had escaped from Hamas. One holding a white flag. Shirtless. Others with arms up. Calling for help in Hebrew. All shot dead.
White flag has been internationally recognized as truce for how long? And speaking Hebrew? I would like to see heads roll but how does that pay back these lives?
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Excellent. He brings up a key point that news reports have been ignoring. At 2:30, a chart shows how many Jews were removed from Arab countries since 1948, when some of the Arabs were removed from what is now Isreal. Which is the excuse used by Hamas to remove the Jews from all of the land. Complete double standard used by Hamas. I'm relying on my old rusty memory, so if any of this is off, please correct with better info. Many of the Jews in Arab countries where killed, not just removed. Also the value? Of the land in Arab countries given up by Jews was worth 10 times what the Arabs gave up. In 1948, most of the land that became Isreal was worthless.
Nobody (in this forum, but correct me if I'm wrong) is suggesting Hamas is in the right. Only that killing civilians to punish Hamas is wrong.
18.1 % of the Israeli population in Muslim. about 1.7 million people in all and that's a fifth of the Israeli population. Muslims, Christians and Jews have been neighbors for thousands of years ..this isn't some new genocide from 1948.....the difference between peaceful Jews, Christians and Muslims in the region is that they are not armed fundamentalist extremists. Those are the assholes who rape, torture and kill innocent people over their fucked up rule books and chants. Hamas does not represent Muslim culture but represents fundamentalist warlord culture. Where is the United Nations when we need them in Ukraine and Israel/Palestine? The UN is showing itself to be largely ineffectual in combating terrorism around the globe. Somebody said India is a neutral country...that's not the truth, they are a country with nukes and skirmishes in Kashmira, Pakistan and the northern border with China. Switzerland is a neutral country. India is not.
Switzerland is neutral as long as no one asks them to return stolen Nazi gold they keep in their banks... Let's not pretend that the Swiss do not have their own agenda... They are the Ferengi alliance without the cute ears.
Most of them hide them in official photos for a reason... Jean-Jacques Rousseau Ursula Andress Roger Federer Tina Turner
Written off by the politicians as mistakes, allied planes attacked targets in Switzerland during WW2 about 70 times. Everything from a single plane straffing a target, up to a 50 bomber raid. Several may have been navigation errors, but not all 70. It was understood these raids were warnings to Switzerland to stop collaborating with Germany. BTW, India has close relations with Iran, Palistine, Russia, and Israel. You could say, both Switzerland and India played both sides, for their own benefit.
I would add Turkiye to India and Switzerland on the list of countries playing both sides/neutral. Turkiye has sent drones to Ukraine, but has also back-doored tons of banned product to Russia. If ever a world war breaks out, not sure whose side India and Turkiye would be on? India has a very large and strong military, and as of now, leans towards Russia.
Israeli Bombing of Gaza Ranks Among 'Most Devastating' in History "Gaza is one of the most intense civilian punishment campaigns in history," said a U.S. military historian as Israel's use of arms including 2,000-pound "bunker-buster" bombs pushed the Palestinian death toll over 20,000. https://www.commondreams.org/news/bombing-gaza 70% of all casualties are women and children. At that level of civilian deaths... Israeli's are straight up baby killers.
Imagine if this was Russia or Iran doing this. https://www.trtworld.com/middle-eas...e-organs-from-bodies-of-palestinians-16412069
