Religion Mid East Religious War

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  1. AmirIcon

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    I already knew this so no need to warn me. These politicians are the worst humanity has to offer. Taking sides and splitting hairs between the two is pretty useless. Right now we have a ceasefire. Is that going to hold? Absolutely not due to dark forces and AIPAC money.
     
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    Well, then the empire falls faster.
     
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    Biden and Harris were both opposed to any genocide in Gaza. Trump is actively advocating for genocide.

    This is not splitting hairs.
     
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    LMAO a literal genocide happened under their watch. What are you talking about? Are you looking at what happened under their watch or just listening to them give lip service to the issue?

    Gaza is a big reason why Kamala lost. Even the liberal media concedes that point now.
     
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    The US doesn't control Israel or Gaza. Other countries aren't "under our watch".

    If Gaza is a big reason that Kamala lost then those people who chose not to vote for her rather than keeping Trump out of office were stupid.

    They just chopped off their head because they had a zit.

    Trump is that much worse. As we see now. A genocide isn't going to "happen under his watch". Instead he is actively encouraging and preparing to have the US participate in genocide so that he can personally gain from it.
     
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    Fucking insane
     
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    If Arab countries would come together to help refugees and rebuild the area, Trump wouldnt need to be imvolved.
     
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    I don't think Isreal is going to let Arab countries in there to rebuild the area.
     
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    Bruh. This has been explained. We funded it. You and me and every other American. Biden's administration made that be. 500k people slaughtered. Mostly women and children. We already participated.

    Arguing about Trump in this context is silly. Right now there's a ceasefire. The bloodshed has halted. Do I think that will remain? Absolutely not. We keeping saying "that much worse" but you can't get "that much worse" than the 500k slaughtered under Biden/Kamala.

    Please spare me.
     
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    PAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR
     
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    We didn't fund it, they are our ally. We have deals with them. You have to pick your battles. We don't know what impact pulling funding may have had. Maybe that would have resulted in millions dying?

    I do know that Biden and Kamala were both 100% opposed to destroying Gaza. They were public about it. They wanted Gaza to belong to the Palestinians.

    Trump doesn't. And is actively advocating for complete genocide. As anybody who was paying attention knew he probably would.
     
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    Isn't that kind of what the Abraham accord was about? Israel and Arab countries establishing joint commerce and bringing about peace in the region? Cant let Hamas run it like they have for years.
     
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    Could trump be just trying negotiation ploy to get others to step up.?
     
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    What do you mean we didn't fund it? We didn't send billions of tax payer dollars to Israel? Huh?

    You gotta be kidding me with these talking points. Every building in Gaza was decimated under the watch of Biden/Kamala. You're too busy getting distracted by virtue signaling the administration did. Look at the actions. I'm not going to rehash information that is readily available and widely reported. You have access to the internet.

    The genocide actually stopped under Trump. Will it reconvene? Surely. That's because Israel owns the U.S. and no Democrat or Republican will change that.
     
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    Doubt it. He is a notoriously bad negotiator and not subtle.
     
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    Now I hear the Danes want to buy California.. trump will probably try and sell it too. Not sure the US would survive w/o CA.
     
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    I wouldn't mind Denmark. Free healthcare, free education, great pastry

    Asked under what authority he would take Gaza, Trump said American authority. Although nothing in US law permits taking another country. When asked what if Gazans don't want to leave, Trump said they will go to beautiful place with beautiful houses and medical. Maybe he could do beautiful houses and medical care in this country.

    Don't hold your breath, Americans or Gazans.
     
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    The US would not be keeping Palestinians out of Gaza under Democrats. I'm sorry, that just wouldn't be happening with anybody but a Republican. They wouldn't even make that threat.

    Again, I'm not happy that Israel did what it did. At least the US was opposed to it.

    I'm even more pissed off when the US encourages and joins that behavior.
     
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