Might make you feel better about signing Gary Payton II

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  1. Eli Vance

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    I'm digging that defense. It's like the Blazers are building to replace Dame as much as they are trying to build around him.

    It seems like this is a year away:

    Ant/GP2
    Sharpe/Hart
    Little
    Grant
    Winslow
    Jabari
    Nurk
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Funny.... I had just started watching this video.

    Does anyone else watch his defense and think, "you're not getting away with that on the Blazers."
     
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    Me. First thing I said to myself
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    One of the first clips is him ripping the ball away from someone and I'm thinking, "that's gonna be a foul."

    Also.... so many lobs in that video. Dame is shit at throwing lobs.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Watford and Winslow will probably be throwing the majority of lob passes honestly.
     
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    I hope someone does. The guy is insanely athletic. I hope we take advantage of him and Sharpe.

    Aside from defense, for some reason Dame has never been good at lobs and it's one of the few holes in his game.
     
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    And moving w/o the ball. Something Steph is elite at.

    Prime Shane Battier would be a fantasy for this team
     
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    That’s where Dame and Steph are like night and day. Steph is more like Ray Allen or Reggie Miller in that regard.
     
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    Winslow, Hart and Payton. Definitely a theme there.
     
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    moving without the ball sure is easier when you have passers like Draymond, Iggy, Livingston, and Durant. Dame hasn't played with anybody close to that except for maybe Batum or Steve Blake. And players like Monta Ellis, Nate Robinson, and Jarret Jack were better at passing then Batum too. Jack averaged 6 assists/game one year with Curry

    Olshey gave Stotts an iso-heavy roster and Stotts sure seemed to favor an iso-heavy offense. Dame isn't as good as Curry at moving without the ball, but I think a lot of that can be attributed to roster, coaching, and scheme. Nobody has ever said Dame isn't coachable
     
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    Simons hopefully is better.
     
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    Would be great to see Dame throw the ball to Winslow ( or anyone else), get open, get the ball back with an advantage then shoot or go to the hoop.
     
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    GSW were limited in what they could offer GPII. They couldn't offer more than $6.5M.
     
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    Yeah I don’t know why are ignoring that.
     
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    Same reason many ignored that when we "weren't willing to pay what it took to re-sign Seth Curry".

    Ignorance.
     
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    Payton's NBA salary career:

    upload_2022-7-4_15-39-41.png

    3.9M in 6 seasons

    his Blazer deal must seem like heaven
     
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    GS actually had his early bird rights. So they could've offered him up to about $11 million.

    They chose not to offer a similar contract because it would've cost them an additional $60 million this year (plus who knows how much in years 2 and 3). They would've brought him back on a 1-year deal for about the Tax-MLE but were unwilling to go higher.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I stand corrected
     
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    I believe you are incorrect here.

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q20
    In investigating this further - I dont think GSW even had early bird rights.
     
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