It can work if he's moved with Bibby, because the contract amounts get so large, making it easier to get within that 125% + 100,000 parameter and his trade value being at 5 million. It works in the trade checker: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c5pfh2 I added Hunter and Gardner because both teams are already at the roster limit As for the likelihood of the deal going down, I don't see ATL being eager to blow it up when they are competitive and in the playoff hunt; doing this deal almost certainly kills their post season hopes, also Bayless is a steep price to pay for what amounts to a very short term "fix" in Bibby and puts us back at square one looking for a point in a year or two. But let's assume this is actually being discussed seriously by both teams, I'd try very hard to remove Jerryd from the equation and add Sergio + Rudy instead in a counter-offer and hope that they go for that. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bmphdk
Agreed. Bibby expires this year, and can probably be resigned by the Hawks to a short term deal at slightly above the MLE, and Josh Smith is a foundation player on a pretty reasonable contract considering his age, upside and productivity.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cjpwlv I wouldn't mind this one at all. And long term I'd still way rather have Rudy than Bayless. We know Rudy can fit into a team concept as a glue guy and is very well-rounded, Bayless may not ever be much more than a scorer (of which we have/will have plenty). Blake/Raef/Outlaw/Bayless for JSmith/Bibby They save quite a bit of money still and get some decent young talent in Outlaw and Bayless. We get Jsmooth to play 3/4 for us and be a flex player with a very reasonable contract. Bibby/Sergio Roy/Rudy JSmith/Batum Aldridge/Smith Oden/Pryzbilla next year we work Martell into the mix and possibly move Roy down to point.
Atlanta would mind it. Talent wise. I don't know if they want to save money, there have been no reports and they seem pretty happy with the team.
I feel like it was rumored in the past that Atlanta really liked Sergio, but I could be remembering poorly. This would be pretty interesting. As was said, can't really see why Atlanta would do it, but the primary reason would be financial. Seems odd they wouldn't have tried to move Josh Smith in a sign and trade last year, if they didn't want to keep him, but Marvin Williams has improved this year, so maybe they view him as a better option. Williams will be a RFA this offseason, and Joe Johnson will be UFA the following season. Maybe they view those two as more important to their future than Smith? Another possibility, as the "PG of the future" was mentioned, is maybe with acquiring Bayless, Atlanta would possibly include Acie Law in the deal. Not that I think a whole lot of him, but I remember reading from KP before how they look at a lot of guys who they think don't perform well in their current system, or with their current team, but would play a lot better in a different team.
Atlanta stands to gain much more with their team as is. Their owners' eyes have to be lighting up with the possibility of another solid Playoff run. This doesn't make any sense from their perspective.
Wow people on this board are gullible. This supposed insider has 12 posts and you are all acting like this is legit? WTF? "Most front office people I've dealt with..." I got that far in his post and knew he was a fraud. What a joke.
It doesn't matter if Atl is in financial trouble or not it is the Blazers that wouldn't be interested in that trade even though it is a good trade player skills wise. Bibby doesn't fit KP's window for a PG and getting rid of Bayless would doom us to have PG problems as soon as Bibby is done(2-3) years max. I don't care who you talked to unless it was KP this trade isn't going to happen. They are pulling your chain if the mentioned that trade to you.
It's just a discussion of the possiblity (which I think very slim), it's not like we're all jumping up and down pumping our fists in anticipation.
He does give us a starting SF and a BU PF. Obviuosly VERY Athletic and would fill the wing if we ever run. Not sure about his team attitiude. What is he going to say when Nate decides to insert Rudy or Martel at the end of games so they can spread the floor for BROY to do his magic. I don't know him so i will defer to those who watch him more. But he seems to me at first glance to be selfish. I would rather have Marvin Williams
LOL, Like I said Blazer employe's are very tight lipped. But some aren't. I remember playing a round of golf with Mike Rice at Eastmoreland just a few days before the 06' draft. He flat out told me "The kid from Texas (Aldridge) was going to be a Blazer. He said that Aldridge was very high on the Blazers draft board. He also said Rudy Gay and Brandon Roy were very high also. Rice is NOT who I talked with a few weeks ago. I don't think you blabber and name drop because someone told you in confidnce who the GM wants on his team. The Blazers have more than 10 employe's working for them. You know, It could be possible that someone could be related to an employee. They also may know a scout, a public relations person, someone working in the film room, etc. You believe what you want. I got excited because I think Bibby would be a great fit for this team. I'm tired of all this "Potential" we have at the PG postion and I want someone who is PROVEN. Sergio is brutal on the eyes and Bayless, although better, is still unproven and IMO, will never be a PG. PS: If Bibby is a Blazer next week will you acknowledge that maybe I might know someone on the "Inside". Just having a little fun here
No way we're trading youth for 2 guys who've already peaked and are heading down the hill. It's not in the recipe.
Will turn 31 in May. Maybe Josh Smith is who KP is after. Also Acie Law coming back is a possibilty. I think anyone who can play defense should be considered. Mike Bibby #10 PG» Add Widget 2008-09 STATS PPG APG SPG 15.8 5.4 1.5 2008-09 FANTASY STATS % OWN WK +/- AVG DRAFT 100.0% 0.0% 88.0 Birth Date May 13, 1978 Birth Place Cherry Hill, NJ Height 6-2 Weight 195 lbs. Age 30 Position PG Experience 10 years College Arizona
bibby is expiring too, so they really arent saving to mutch scratch, it seems they would be more eager to deal longer contracts if they were truly looking to shed alot of salary.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cnu3hn would much rather have that beat the deal also including PetKo and picks Do not want to get rid of Bayless or Outlaw..I would give them batum but no need with Webster and Marvin on the same team
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ctclbn might be feasible, given that we take claxtons nasty contract for next year. also, j smith seems to have regressed a bit this year, he is averaging a full block less per game then last year, in fact his scoring, assists, and rebounds are all down in the same mpg. and he is shooting .580 from the line.
The more I think about it, why in the world would ATL make a trade with us? Bibby is already an expiring..doesn't seem to save them too much money..I am not doubting the OP, just don't think the 2 teams make for good trading partners. Would Smith even be a good fit here?
I like Josh Smith as a player, but I'm not sure he'd fit in at small forward on this team. He seems like more of an interior player offensively, and with Aldridge and Oden, that could get crowded. Though, perhaps, Aldridge can stay outside more. I'm not sure if that would be a positive development. If I'm Pritchard, I target Bibby and Marvin Williams and try to keep Bayless out of the deal (since Williams is a lesser talent than Smith). That gives Portland a solid point guard and small forward, and keeps the dynamic Bayless in the fold.
