Mike Conley? WTF?! (Trade rumor)

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  1. Fez Hammersticks

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    I make this move for Greg Oden. Period. He may no look like it, or even close to, but Greg Oden is the franchise. Conley can only help Greg in more ways than one.
     
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    Someone on the memphis board was talking about a Gay for Aldridge/Outlaw type deal

    would you do it?
     
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    There is nothing outside Mayo or Gay on the Grizzlies roster that would be an upgrade in talent. We have too much talent, which is a nice problem. I doubt a deal goes down anytime soon, especially with the Blazers winning.
     
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    I agree. I don't think the Grizz are a good trade partner.

    I've also come to the conclusion that nothing is imminent. I think Pritchard will keep evaluating, and will be active in the month before the trade deadline. I assume that he wants to cash the LaFrentz chip in, and the best way to do that is to combine it with an attractive player or two to get something very worthwhile.

    If the Wizards keep tanking, maybe they'll make the mistake of trading Caron Butler, like Dallas made the mistake of trading Devin Harris last year.
     
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    I don't know about this one. I really like what I'm seeing from Batum. If we trade Aldridge it would have to be for another big.
     
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    Gay is a ridiculous talent.
     
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    no. gay is overrated and adds nothing we don't already have.
     
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    Buy low, sell high. Conleys value is low right now because he's only in his 2nd year and his shot isn't falling. This kid's going to bust out sooner or later. Then all you naysayers will be slapping yourself in the forehead and wailing "oh man, I didn't see this coming." Conley definitely has the talent and IQ to make it big in the nba. Now is the time to "buy" on Conley.
     
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    I'd do that deal...I think blake is highly overrated, and while Frye is somewhat streaky...so is Outlaw and Frye knows how to set picks. I really don't want to break up the Sergio-Rudy connection!

    This unit still seems alright to me:
    Conley/Sergio/Bayless (volatile but high potential and Roy and Fernandez get some mins too)
    Roy/Fernandez
    Webster/Batum
    Aldridge/Frye/Diogu/Randolph
    Oden/Pryz
     
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    Uh, Point One: they can get 11M in cap space from Blake, Outlaw and Diogu, which iirc is more than 9M. Point Two: Have you seen MEM's PF situation? Which 6'9 guy would you rather have playing 25-30MPG at PF...Travis or Warrick?

    Is it overpaying by us? Maybe. I don't think MEM is the one that turns this down.
     
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    batum will be a better all-around player, if he's not already. seriously.
     
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    personally I think Travis and Warrick are on the same tier
     
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    Batum is already a very good defender. We're already sticking him on the opposing teams best player. He's the future at the three, IMO.
     
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    forget your meds today?
     
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    As much as I would have loved this trade last year, and feel like we need to get rid of Outlaw, this doesn't make a lot of sense. I feel like we need to get rid of one SF and one PG, but getting rid of one of each to get a PG back that isn't necessarily better than any of the other PGs on our team doesn't make any sense to me. Bayless is already having trouble getting time, so who's to say Conley is going to be able to even break the lineup?

    Personally, I think Outlaw should go because I feel like Webster and Batum fit better with the team. I'm still torn on what to do at PG. Sergio has really stepped up, we've only seen glimpses of Bayless, and Blake brings that outside shooting. Plus, it'd be a pretty big dick move to trade Blake away yet again-yes I know the NBA is a business, and it probably will happen at some point, but it's just kind of a crappy situation overall.
     
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    I don't think I'd go that far. For all of my Travis "hate", the man can shoot from outside and, when he puts his mind to it, be a rebounding beast. I can't describe Warrick's game anywhere close to that.

    To put it a different way...I don't think Warrick gets off the bench ahead of Frye. He can't play the 3 well, so he's not going to be in any "big" lineups. He'd be Diogu Pt. 2 for us.
     
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    Warrick is Travis Outlaw, minus the jumpshot.

    Outlaw will put up a lot of points in a more prominent role. In Memphis, I think he could be the 3rd option behind Mayo and Gay.
     
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    That team would really be able to run.
     
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    I'm going to have to disagree, but I like your enthusiasm
     
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    I don't see this trade happening.

    First, Conley's stock is low, and Travis' stock is high. At this point, you don't even do an even swap; forget about throwing Sergio into the mix.

    Outlaw's contract is really good. It could be argued he's being underpaid right now. Combine that with his potential, demonstrated abilities and growth ... and you have a really attractive trade chip. That doesn't mean Pritchard is going to give him up. It just means he's going to show up in a lot of "what-if" trades BECAUSE he's coveted.

    Also, the trade wouldn't help Memphis' log jam at PG anyway. They'll still have four under-developed point guards with potential. Now they happen to have a back-up SF in the mix, as well.

    Also, why trade Sergio? He's doing well. He's got a good thing going with Rudy. No need to rush that here.

    Also, why Conley? Just because he and Oden are buddy-buddy doesn't mean they'll bring out the best in each other here. It's one thing to be successful in high school or college. It's another to be good together in the NBA.

    Finally, Conley doesn't help us with outside shooting. And isn't that what Greg's presence is supposed to help?

    Conley is averaging 7/3/4 this season. We're going to give up Outlaw and Sergio for that? I get the idea of consolidating talent, but you don't throw away talent to get there. And, in my opinion, that's what this trade would be.
     

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