Militia takes over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/03/u...prison-angering-far-right-activists.html?_r=0

Mr. Bundy described the federal building as “the people’s facility, owned by the people” and said his group was occupying it to take “a hard stand against this overreach, this taking of the people’s land and resources.”

He said the group would remain there indefinitely and told an interviewer that he hoped more supporters would join them. “We have a facility that we can house them in,” he said, referring to the occupied building.

“We pose no threat to anybody,” Mr. Bundy said. “There is no person that is physically harmed by what we are doing.” He added that if law enforcement officials “bring physical harm to us, they will be doing it only for a facility or a building.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ed-for-his-waistband-just-before-he-was-shot/

Another self-described witness disputes that, saying that authorities opened fire before the getaway chase and that Finicum had his hands up when he was shot.

 

More from the post story:

(SPD's source):
“I didn’t see the shooting,” McConnell said, but from what he was told by Cox, Finicum “was not on his knees” when he was shot — a claim made by Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore, who also tweeted that Finicum was “murdered with his hands up.”

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McConnell’s account conflicts with statements made by Victoria Sharp, who said she was the 18-year-old in the car with Finicum. In a 12-minute audio clip uploaded to YouTube, Sharp said Payne was trying to get herand Cox out of the car when police took their first shot.

“He put his hands out the window, he was trying to talk with them,” Sharp said of Payne. “He said, ‘We have women in the car, at least let the women get out.’ And he stuck his head out and they shot at him, but they missed him, or he ducked just in time.”

The shot showed that the occupiers that authorities “meant business,” Sharp said, but it also led Finicum to speed off, yelling that he was going to go “talk to the sheriff.”

“He drove and we all got down on the floorboards and they just started firing at us, shooting at us a bunch of times,” Sharp said.

Then Finicum rammed his truck into the snowbank at the roadblock.

“He got out of the car and he had his hands in the air and he was like, ‘Just shoot me then. Is this what you want? Just shoot me.’

“And they did,” she said. “They shot him dead.”

 

I think you know at least as much as they do themselves.

Words change meaning over time. I'd say there is excellent reason for militia having come to mean whacko. The only recent use of the word is by whackos that self-describe as militias.

barfo

 

"Progressive" has come to mean whacko, too.

Thanks Obama!

 

Just' some good ol' boys

Never meanin' no harm

Beats all you never saw

Been in trouble with the law

Since the day they was born



Staightnin' the curves

Flatnin the hills

Someday the mountain might get 'em

But the law never will



Makin' their way

The only way they know how

That's just a little bit more

Than the law will allow.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-establishment

Individuals who were anti-establishment often spoke of "fighting the man", "selling out to the Establishment", and "tearing down the Establishment." Many well renowned activists and activist groups innovated great changes to society by standing up to "the Establishment", including the Grateful Dead, Symbionese Liberation Army, Black Panther Party, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, Malvina Reynolds, Howard Zinn, Noam Chomsky, Public Enemy, John Lennon, K-Rino, Immortal Technique, Anti-Flag, Rage Against the Machine, Terminator X, Gil-Scott Heron, dead prez, Timothy Leary, Paris, Lupe Fiasco among others.

The "Establishment" to these, and these anti-establishment activists was not simply the people of the older generation. Dictionary.com defines the establishment as "the existing power structure in society; the dominant groups in society and their customs or institutions; institutional authority",[7] Merriam-Webster defines the words as "a group of social, economic, and political leaders who form a ruling class"[8] and The Free Dictionary defines it as "A group of people holding most of the power and influence in a government or society."[9]

 

"The Gospel According to barfo"

 

See the last 6 pages of this thread

barfo

 

Is there an echo in here?

barfo

 

They're clearly activists. They've been acting out against government land policies for decades. That is, by definition, a cause.