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  1. Yankeefan5545

    Yankeefan5545 Well-Known Member

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    Was out doing yard work this AM came back to see all this activity and am one happy fan. Keep up the good trades and make us Yankee Fans think we have a future instead of adding over the hill has beens on a yearly basis. In addition to acquire new pieces pay Tex and A-rodham and tell them to enjoy their generous severance packages.
     
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    Tyler Clippard.......

    Please,... someone tell me the Yanks have at least one kid from AAA -AA who can fill the role of Clippard for the remainder of this season.
    I guess he's better than Yates and Swarzak, I guess.
     
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    Yanks seem to be cornering the market on young outfielders.....and you know what, with the exception of Torres, and he's still a "baby", it seems to me "all" or most of these position players recently acquired
    aren't any better or much better than the Yankees' "top" prospects.

    Not ONE newly acquired outfielder has batting stats which grab your eye.
    Yeah, yeah....I know they're still very young....I hope they all turn into future AllStars.
    Is there a gaddam young 3bman out there who can poke a few long balls?

    Headley, unless he visits the pharmacy will probably be on his way out by this time next year......I think.
     
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    Mattingly, I was listening to w-fan morning show and they had a scout on that was familiar with the indian players and he said heller projects to a 7th, 8th inning guy and throws 98mph and feyereisen projects also to 7th and maybe 8th inning set up guy and throws 95. I wonder if their not listed in mlb top 100 because they are relievers. They sound like they both have big time arms for the bullpen.
     
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    Frazier is a stud. Judge, Frazier and Rutherford. The infield is loaded with young talent as well. Now, if only they could develop some elite starting pitching. Their pitching sucks.
     
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    Agree, hopefully, trading beltran and mccann and others can bring back a starting prospect or 2. Even though they probably won't mets not getting lecroy would be a good fit for yanks getting mccann as they still have a couple of good pitching prospects coming up. They should make deal if mutually good for them both.
     
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    Would like a 3rd base power hitter also. Wonder since he has no position to play there if texas could use anything yanks dealing for Gallo
     
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    And also yanks should continue to plunge in standings making their draft pick better for next year. Currently have 12th pick and would be nice if we can get in that 5 range where the future ace starting pitchers lurk.
     
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    Anyone think if Yanks can get a big return they should trade betances also?
     
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    It may be due to this criteria. Thanks for the WFAN info, I didn't know that much about either. I bet neither is listed due to this criteria; which also is applicable to Mejia:

    One reason Mejia is not noted in the MLB Top 100, is:

    To be eligible for a list, a player must have rookie eligibility. To qualify for rookie status, a player must not have exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues, or accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the 25-player limit period, excluding time on the disabled list or in military service.


    The rankings follow the guidelines laid out by the new Collective Bargaining Agreement in terms of who falls under the international pool money rules: Players who are at least 23 years old and played in leagues deemed to be professional (Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Cuba) are not eligible.


    Players are graded on a 20-80 scale for future tools - 20-30 is well below average, 40 is below average, 50 is average, 60 is above average and 70-80 is well above average.
     
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    damn good question, the Q of the Day indeed....

    shit, to be honest, at first I'd say I don't know....

    but, if the returns are a bit beyond equivalent, why not...?
     
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    Said from day one that 95% of all GM's in sports are morons. Proved again by baseball this year. Can't believe how moron GM's are overvaluing relievers. You never give up a future star, every day player for a reliever who might pitch 3 times a week on a good week. Yanks have been brilliant here. I've gone on record as saying Cashman is one of the worst GM's in baseball. Well, he's totally redeemed himself here. He has been off the charts good with these deals. Almost all these pitchers coming out throw 92 to 96 now. You can find top relievers much easier than top position players or top starters.
     
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    ...the GMs who are over-valuing relievers are the GMs of teams that need relievers the most, especially closers.

    ...so "value" is relative to a team's needs.
     
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    Yeppers


    the best I could do for a nodding head....
     
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    Saw an ESPN interview with a guy familiar with Frazier.
    Mentioned his excellent "bat speed" and how he plays like his hair is on fire.
    The kid has long red hair and has already tweeted it's time for a haircut, lol.
    Good speed and power and can play all outfield positions.
    Sounds like a good package to start with. It appears as if Frazier is the main attraction.
    When I first heard about the trade there was no mention of a second reliever being included which could also be an attempt by the Yanks to rebuild the pen around Betances.

    Ben Heller and J P Feyereisen have both been low-hit, high K relievers in a couple yrs in the minors.

    Heller 172.1 IP, 2.77 ERA / 1.10 WHIP / 6.4 H per 9 IP / 11.8 K per 9 IP
    Feyereisen 105 IP, 1.80 ERA / 1.01 WHIP / 5.9 H per 9 IP / 11.7 K per 9 IP

    Justus Sheffield was also obtained by Yanks in this trade.
    20 year old LH SP.....
    And looking at his stats thus far, his best "stats" seem to be:
    20 years old and Lefthanded.
     
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    ...my feelings about ARod are well known, but I'm also tired of watching Tex defiantly refusing to hit to the opposite field vs the shift...even with the Yanx down by 4 runs and nobody on base Tex refuses to take what the other team gives him and still tries to pull everything.

    ...very frustrating to watch time after time.
     
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    that is IF he makes contact...

    watching Tex and #13 swat at thin air, is beyond endurable and patience...

    in other words, when either is at bat, that's a good time to grab a cold one, make a sammich..."say a prayer for the pretender(s)"...
     

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