Minnesota wants Batum @ 11.25M a year

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  1. RedHotRollin

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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    He's a role player. That is all he is. That is all he is every going to be.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    At that price I'd rather save some cap space for a Matthews and future pick for Iggy trade
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    This is easy: you sign him, and tell him "this is your time". Play him like his French coach does, and if he's still underwhelming, you either trade him or just don't re-sign him. Remember, the contract is only for 4 years. That's nothing, really.

    Everybody is tradeable. Rashard Lewis has been traded twice. Besides: remember Olshey's refrain: his strategy is to "accumulate assets". Batum is clearly an asset, especially if his value has been set by another team. It's not like we're competing with ourselves, which is the source of most ridiculous contracts.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Iggy is too old for Olshey's plan.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    It's OK to 'overpay' Hibbert but not Batum? Who decides what 'overpay' means? I go by the market. The Nyets are going to pay Crash $10 mil per. I'd rather have Batum. I would love to have Nico for $8 mil, but if the market says players in his 'tier' (sorry, couldn't resist) are worth $10-12 mil, then so be it. Once we pay Hibbert the MAX (if Indy doesn't match) we won't have a dime left to replace Batum with in a comparable player. Face it, we need him. If nothing else, retain him as an asset and trade him later. I guess we may just find out how much Paul Allen is willing to spend. And we should know by around July 14th.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    So long as he's a useful role player, he's valuable. Dennis Rodman was a role player. Robert Horry was a role player. On the Heat, Bosh is essentially a role player.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Well put. Besides, always remember: it's not our money.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    With Hibbert and LaMarcus, no one expects Batum to be a no. 2 option. Once Lillard is up to speed Batum will likely be our no. 4 option. I don't frankly care how much $$ he makes at that point. We won't be under the cap regardless. It's not like paying Batum after we are already maxed out affects our flexibility in signing other players. When the rookies' contracts are up in a few years, that's when we will care how the money is divied up, and trades will be made. And...it's not my money.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Yeah, this is how I feel too. Even at ~$12 million AAV, he won't be an untradeable albatross even if he doesn't improve. And I think he still has upside remaining.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Maybe Batum's problem has been he felt undervalued. Well... this would fix that!
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    It's funny, when I heard about Olshey making a max offer to Hibbert, the first thing I thought was KP should counter with a toxic offer to Nico. LOL
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    If Belinelli got 42M/4........ Afflao 10.2M a year and Wallace just signed a 42M/4 why is it hard to imagine Nic getting 11-12M a season?
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year


    If Indy didn't already have Paul George and Danny Granger I'd consider it too... hehe
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    A toxic offer wouldn't really work against PA though, at least not in the sense of the one we offered to Milsap. Allen would have no problem coming up with the cash on the spot to take care of that kind of deal.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    I'd love to see how Kahn's mind works.

    He trades the 18th pick for Chase Budinger, he has Martell Webster and Wesley Johnson at SF, and now he's going to throw $12m/y at a player who is at best a 3rd option offensively?
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    I'd rather have Gallinari than Batum. Paying Batum more than Gallinari is blasphemy.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    That's exactly what Batum is.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    You did not even mention Derrick Williams. He is listed as a SF and at the very least will get some minutes there unless they make a big trade. It's almost like he is just fucking with the Blazers thinking they will match no matter what.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Good point. Last year's #2 pick either needs to play SF or continue to back-up Love at PF.

    Kahn is Krazy!
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    I may be wrong but the Wolves can only offer something in the $42m range, right?
     
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