Moda is withdrawing from the Oregon insurance market

MODA is getting out of the individual market. They will still be insuring people in the group market, like employees of companies and government agencies.

 

I'd probably be dead if it wasn't for Obama Care. So should I be for us changing the name to "Ron Tilles & Martin Shkreli Memorial Coliseum?"

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Too bad the wholly owned subsidiary politicians would never allow anything close to a single payer system. The affordable care act could have been so much better if Obama hadn't had to pander to get support from big medicine just to get something, anything, passed to provide medical care to the not-for-profit sick in this country.

 

How about Obama Care Arena?

 

No baby, Public Option Arena has a nice ring to it. Along with "Disappearing Middle Class Conventional Hall" and "Offshore Tax Shelter Stadium!" We've got to think big!

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So you don't foresee a change to the name?

 

That would be ironic, but I think the roof would probably fall in if you did that.

 

Call me Sgt. Schultz, because I know nothing.

I don't know how they'd go about breaking such a contract, without being liable for the money they agreed to pay?

I'm also at a loss as to how having your company name on a basketball arena causes companies to choose your insurance products, thereby increasing your profits?

Maybe if MODA spent less money on naming a basketball stadium they wouldn't have to bail on insuring the elderly, but I don't know anything about how that works either.

 

Why can't we have socialism work? Because young people don't want to pay upfront.

 

Short sighted, they are.

I know I was. I resisted getting an IRA when I was young enough for it to do me some real good, no matter how hard my wise elders tried to convince me. I even knew they were right. Too busy partying, I was.

 

Additionally, OHSU had loaned Moda $50,000,000.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2015/11/ohsu_props_up_money-losing_mod.html

 

I normally don't get into debates like this, but I have to say something:

Without the healthcare, I would be screwed right now health wise. It saved my life. So I take offense to this.

 

I think Denny should put up the naming rights $ and we could call it the S2 Forum Center.
If you don't like that, it could be the Sly Poker Dog Pound, or the Homer Loves Kool Aiditorium.
I'm flexible.

 

What was I thinking? That is a natural.
I also like Barfo Center, Barfo Complex, and Barfoliseum.

 

The only reason OCA was good was that it disallowed health care companies from denying coverage to people, because they hit maximums or whatever else.

So if you were in that bucket then yes (i am assuming..), I could see you approving for OCA (albeit he should have just fixed the current healthcare scams, including the ability to deny people). IMO the OCA's PROs do not outweigh the CONs. And we will all SOON reap the benefits of paying out our asses for health care coverage, because the employers are going to say 'fuck you, no more, you have to help pay for this'.

Edit: Strenuus, not trying to offend, btw, just kinda bs'n an issue I see.

 

Uncle Cliffy could put up the $ for the naming rights and call it "Weed Toke Center". Perhaps, Damon Stoudamire & Rasheed Wallace would be willing to chip in as well....

 

Has to have "Rose Garden" in the name somewhere. Sorry. That's just the way it is.

 

Or worse. The employer could OFFER a plan that qualifies under ACA as meeting the requirements (one actual example I saw last year was the "MVP" plan - Minimum Value Plan - Literally that was plan name) but is actually quite expensive. Employees then lose the right to subsidies (because the employer offers a plan) but it is cheaper to go out and buy an individual plan (at least now).

In such a case, the company is off-the-hook (i.e., no penalties for them) and either the employee gets a bad deal or is forced into the individual market.

Yes, single-payer has drawbacks as does what we had before ACA but ACA seems to be a marriage that professes the advantages of a single-payer system but without the financial advantages (essentially no premiums for most care) and disadvantages (we'd all have to pay for it via taxes).

Gramps...

 

Ok. The "Barfo smells like a Rose Garden Center".