More motivation for Shaq?

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  1. Apollo

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    I never really thought that Shaq needed any motivation at all. It`s just the little things surrounding him that slow down things. But I can see why he would be pumped and more motivated for next season with reasons that were mentioned earlier.
     
  2. Nasty

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Zo or Dooling aren't even in the same league as the Diceman

    He is a 17 and 9 player as a starter this year and has proved his worth in the finals so far.

    As for this topic, Shaq was said to have motivation this year. Trying to prove a point to the Lakers, to Kobe to the whole league e.t.c and yet again comes up short. Shaq will never ever win an NBA title again. He is just not a guy who can lead a team on his back anymore. So no new added motivation will help him.</div>

    "Never underestimate the heart of a champion"- Rudy Tomjanovic
     
  3. mike18946

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple Fever:</div><div class="quote_post">"Never underestimate the heart of a champion"- Rudy Tomjanovic</div>

    You can buy that quote all you like but fact remains Shaq is getting older and older, the amount of games he can play will decrease, his numbers will decrease and the worse thing for his team is the fact him demanding a big contract completely takes away any chance for the Heat to improve their team. He should take a paycut and stop demanding this 30 million a year crap. He shouldn't be getting paid 15-17 million a year more than Tim Duncan. Should be the other way around.

    Oh and does Shaq really have that much heart? the quote certainly doesn't apply to him.
     
  4. playmaker15

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">You can buy that quote all you like but fact remains Shaq is getting older and older, the amount of games he can play will decrease, his numbers will decrease and the worse thing for his team is the fact him demanding a big contract completely takes away any chance for the Heat to improve their team. He should take a paycut and stop demanding this 30 million a year crap. He shouldn't be getting paid 15-17 million a year more than Tim Duncan. Should be the other way around.

    Oh and does Shaq really have that much heart? the quote certainly doesn't apply to him.</div>

    He has tremendous heart, and is still the most dominating player in the league and you can't deny it. He deserves 30 million because he is still more dominating than Duncan or anyone else. He and Flash are going to take us to the top. You wouldn't have said that he had no heart when he was still in L.A would you?
     
  5. durvasa

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    He had plenty of reason to be motivated this year. If the Heat do have a more successful year next year, I'd think it would be more due to Wade's improvement than Shaq's.
     
  6. mike18946

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker31:</div><div class="quote_post">He has tremendous heart, and is still the most dominating player in the league and you can't deny it. He deserves 30 million because he is still more dominating than Duncan or anyone else. He and Flash are going to take us to the top. You wouldn't have said that he had no heart when he was still in L.A would you?</div>

    No real guy who has sat out with the injures he has had should be a guy with heart. He sits out with the kind of injures most players play through. He is a wimp, plain and simple. No guy who can't carry an offense deserves 30 million. The difference between Shaq and Duncan is that Shaq needs a dominating shooting guard to win while Duncan has won with role players. Shaq is still dominating but not anywhere near as much as he used to be. No one can make any case that Shaq deserves to get paid more than Duncan period, nevermind 15 million more.

    And I'm sorry but Shaq and Wade aren't leading the Heat anywhere but to the conference finals. The cap is the main reason for that, there are reports the Heat may close Haslem as the Hawks and Cavs..two teams with cap space may be willing to make him a good offer. If so he is gone and the Heat are in further trouble. This year was Shaq's and the Heat best chance for a title and next year. The Pistons will again be right up there as will the Pacers. With Pacers losing Artest, this was their chance as they had to get past the Pistons instead of the Pistons and Pacers.

    Oh and Shaq didn't have much heart the past few years in L.A. Mainly because he got so out of shape.
     
  7. P.A.P.

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">No real guy who has sat out with the injures he has had should be a guy with heart. He sits out with the kind of injures most players play through. He is a wimp, plain and simple. No guy who can't carry an offense deserves 30 million. The difference between Shaq and Duncan is that Shaq needs a dominating shooting guard to win while Duncan has won with role players. Shaq is still dominating but not anywhere near as much as he used to be. No one can make any case that Shaq deserves to get paid more than Duncan period, nevermind 15 million more.</div>

    Yes Shaq's a wimp. I'm sure you felt the pain he did and understood the injuries he went through. How would you know Shaq's pain? He's a big man, and with injuries like that to his leg and body, it will limit his mobility and it would damage him for the upcoming game in the series, leaving him in worse condition at which he started at. They had to drain blood out of his thighs at practice. I'm not sure what you what an injury is. Players play hurt and through pain all the time...but playing injured, especially considered the injury Shaq had to his body, is totally different.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And I'm sorry but Shaq and Wade aren't leading the Heat anywhere but to the conference finals. The cap is the main reason for that, there are reports the Heat may close Haslem as the Hawks and Cavs..two teams with cap space may be willing to make him a good offer. If so he is gone and the Heat are in further trouble. This year was Shaq's and the Heat best chance for a title and next year. The Pistons will again be right up there as will the Pacers. With Pacers losing Artest, this was their chance as they had to get past the Pistons instead of the Pistons and Pacers.</div>

    Thanks for the predicting the future. You can believe what you want about the rumors, but if Haslem is back or not next year, the Heat will still have a great chance to make the ECF and advance to the Finals. It's not like Haslem is not replacable...you can replace him via FA or Draft.

    Shaq isn't getting any better, but it's not like they had no chance to defeat the Pistons this series. Their are always going to be questions on how many games Shaq can play a season, but had he played close to 100% like he did last year in the playoffs, and the previous years, then it would be a totally different story. You can say all you want about how much Rip was "injured" or how Wallace has scar tissue in his right knee, but their "injuries" were much more easier to play for then Shaq and his leg/thigh injuries. I mean...the Heat almost beat the Pistons with 50% Shaq and injured Wade. If their injuries were even a tad bit less severe, it would likely be the Heat playing in the Finals, not the Heat.
     
  8. playmaker15

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">No real guy who has sat out with the injures he has had should be a guy with heart. He sits out with the kind of injures most players play through. He is a wimp, plain and simple. No guy who can't carry an offense deserves 30 million. The difference between Shaq and Duncan is that Shaq needs a dominating shooting guard to win while Duncan has won with role players. Shaq is still dominating but not anywhere near as much as he used to be. No one can make any case that Shaq deserves to get paid more than Duncan period, nevermind 15 million more.

    And I'm sorry but Shaq and Wade aren't leading the Heat anywhere but to the conference finals. The cap is the main reason for that, there are reports the Heat may close Haslem as the Hawks and Cavs..two teams with cap space may be willing to make him a good offer. If so he is gone and the Heat are in further trouble. This year was Shaq's and the Heat best chance for a title and next year. The Pistons will again be right up there as will the Pacers. With Pacers losing Artest, this was their chance as they had to get past the Pistons instead of the Pistons and Pacers.

    Oh and Shaq didn't have much heart the past few years in L.A. Mainly because he got so out of shape.</div>


    HE got out of shape and brought them 3 titles! He had two thigh bruises one from Jermaine O' Neal, and he suffered one in the Wizards series. Two deep thigh bruises, it limits your mobility and you can only do so much. He changes the way the game is played, he adds a whole other part to the game. HE makes every team he is on a winner. There is no one else like him. They will still make it to the conference finals next year and then we'll beat Detroit. Haslem will not leave to Atlanta or Clevland because of the situation in Miami, he's willing to stay for a chance to win unlike in Clevland or Atlanta. The only one leaving in Damon who will probably go to Clevland.
     

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