Notice More US school-age children die from guns than on-duty US police or global military fatalities

aren't we talking about gun deaths?

 

What about Gang Culture? Funny that you don't mention that.

 

Many of the mass shooters are aspergers or are at least on the spectrum.

 

So I have read. Another thing I notices is; damn near all of them in the past 20 years or so are young white boys with no father or Father is missing in their home even though he maybe around somewhere. What the hell is up with this? More research needed. Why the white boys and no blacks? The white boy shooting up the schools while the black boys blow the shit out of each other on the streets. WTF??? These look like mental problems alright. And I expect, we are causing them.

 

My theory is that white single moms are more likely to think that their "special little guy" is "special in their own regard" and doesn't get the diagnosis for aspergers/autism. White people are very defensive about their special little kids, and it probably fucks them up if they have something wired wrong in their heads. They baby them way too much and ignore any violent psychotic behavior out of pure neglect or avoidance.

 

This thread is about gun deaths, my post was on a couple of reasons why I believe that the problem still persists.


I don't really see the need to travel this pathway with you when the problem starts in our congress and with the entities that are corrupting it. Most other factors below that are a waste of time.

 

And people way overreacted to airport security after 9/11.

The hijackers brought box cutters on the planes, which were completely legal to bring on airplanes at that time, but we freaked out and created the TSA and made air travel significantly more annoying for an issue that never existed. All they had to do was change the rules.

You are right though, that they had to change the rules about access to the cockpit.

 

You mean travel the pathway where the answer lies? The young black population is killed at a rate way higher than their population would suggest would be normal. But this is an issue with Congress and corrupt gun lobby entities????

That's what causes gangsters to kill each other? Guys in Washington?

Regulating guns via congress will end that I suppose and dealing with the actual issue is a waste of time.

 

That's the point being made. The issue is without doubt, access to guns. If there was much better vetting - who can access guns - the problem's proportion will shrink considerably.

 

We do need to ban people with any type of autism, learning disorder or under the treatment of a psychologist or psychiatrist any access to guns. I'd go as far as to say anyone under any anti-depressants or mood altering drugs. Perhaps one should be cleared with a psychological profile and drug test before buying a gun/ammo. Guns in the hands of the elite only. We can have a phone predict what you want to buy, we should use these algorithms to find out who is likely to be violent and use guns to kill people.

Then we need to address the black community. We can't ban by skin color, but more needs to be done enforcement wise. There should be raids on the community to find any guns and gangs and break them up and strip the community of unregistered/illegal guns, while ensuring responsible adults in that community can have access to them.

 

They don't though.

If the problem is airplanes crashing into buildings, than sure. But limiting access to guns isn't going to lower suicides. Limiting access to guns isn't going to lower the rate of accidents because it doesn't solve the root issue. People have accidents because they don't practice good safety. Maybe they don't even know how to practice good safety. And a mass shooting can be done with something as simple as a shotgun or a handgun. It has happened before. People just steal a gun from someone who acquired it legally. That's the problem that I have with this argument that stricter gun laws will lower deaths. I don't think it will.

 

Really? Explain why Japan has such an extremely high rate of suicide despite having no access to guns?

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/suicide-rate-by-country/

 

I am willing to accept the idea that people that are determined to commit suicide might find other ways to do it without guns (although the US is highest in the world per capita in this department) - so I do not think that making suicide harder on people is a bad idea, but let's leave it aside for a second.

In the US, the rate of firearm-related homicide per capita is 20 worst in the world, but if you compare us to first-world countries we are 4 times worth than Israel (where access to guns is rather easy because so many people go to the army), 4 times worse than Germany, 8 times worse than Canada, 20 times worse than Austria, 40 times worse than norway, 80 times worse than the UK. The very idea that limiting access to guns is not going to lower deaths is absurd. We have hard data from around the world that debunks this nonsense. Even if the firearm related deaths in the US are 60% suicide, 40% other, saving as much as possible of the 40% is well worth limiting access to firearms.

 

I am not ready, even close to agreeing with this one. Not even sure the autism or Asperger syndrome has shit to do with it. Almost all INTP character types will test positive for Asperger in the test and not be handicapped at all. No no, more research please and research in this area has a hard time finding funding. That is worth another discussion another day.

Bad shit is happening and it probably is caused by our society. It needs to be researched and troubled people do need to be helped. For sure, for certain. But we can not just start taking away the right of people to defend themselves, on unsubstantiated theory, or theoretical possible connections.

 

I've mentioned this before but a limited manually chambered gun will not allow mass serial shootings to occur...it's not the gun...it's the type of ammo capability and the fact someone can carry that much chambered ammo around in public and or multiple guns. You could defend yourself with a single shot pistol from a lone attacker....you don't need magazines full of ammo...I'd rather the things were not publicly easy to obtain and you and I define "tools" differently....crazy people could flip out and kill you with a toaster but to load weapons, acquire a bunch of gear and plan a mass shooting takes thinking ahead....which changes the mental health aspect of it...sure depression and anger are mental health issues but road rage happens

 

It's traditionally considered honorable to take one's own life in their culture....weird practice but goes back thousands of years there...suicide isn't a big traumatic event in Japan...unless it's kids over school grades...which does happen

 

Look at the mass shooters. Just look at them. Its a little more than them being young males, they obviously fall on the spectrum and can't handle it.

People can't handle the truth.