Re: Moss: 'I wanted to go to the Falcons or Raiders' Yeah, but I also said that Mike cant throw a ball worth a sh*t, which is true. His more reliable target is a TE because he doesnt have to throw a dead on ball to a TE for him to catch it. Randy would definately complain about a) his touches, and Mike's bad passes..
Re: Moss: 'I wanted to go to the Falcons or Raiders' Well just for aguments sake, we see that the year Daunte and Moss were together, Culpepper wouldve got the MVP for sure if it wasnt for Manning's legendary season. The next year Moss left for the Raiders and many commentators said that maybe Culpepper was done. We all know Culpepper is a great QB but without a superstar WR on his team he did horribly... I'm just thinking that Moss on the Falcs would make Vick's passing job a hell easier... I've seen Moss' catches, some of them you may think an undrafted rookie threw it and he still can get it done. I do agree with you on Vick's passing problems.. but none of us really know what would happen
Re: Moss: 'I wanted to go to the Falcons or Raiders' Sorry buddy, but Michael Vick isnt near the passer that Daunte Culpepper is..
Re: Moss: 'I wanted to go to the Falcons or Raiders' I know that but when Daunte Culpepper lost Moss and was stuck with mediocres (as Vick is) he went down the drain. Who knows...
Re: Moss: 'I wanted to go to the Falcons or Raiders' He had a bad season, but he had no one to throw to. No one could catch a ball. Plus, he had no chance to get better because he was annilhated with that knee injury mid-season...
Re: Moss: 'I wanted to go to the Falcons or Raiders' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ELiiiTE @ Jul 12 2006, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I make one comment and you automatically assume that I don't watch the NFL. Shows how much you know. And you dont know, when has Atlanta had a great WR? And being on the Raiders he is doing well below the expected. So he can only do better on the Falcons. And he thows to Alge because he is their best catcher... he is trusted, proven and can get the job done. Randy on their team would be great because they would be both a running and receiving threat, with 2 guys who are good at catching the ball.As for attitude-wise, it's iffy, but I think if he was put in such a good situation as that he would behave himself.</div>I agreee with you.On a side note cb4 shove a cork in it. Donovan McNabb wasn't a great QB when he had no receivers but when T.O came in it took him to a whole nother level. Its a different story with vick but stop blaming it all on him. He hasn't had a top 5 receiver his whole career and the reason he throws to crumpler all the time is because he is one of the best tight ends in the league. If he had moss he'd be alot better quarterback and he wouldn't run so much. He's never going to become a pocket passer though if you hook him up with a great wide receiver he will stop scrambling around so much trying to make time for his receivers. Its also not all his fault i watched a few of they're games last year and i saw on alot of occasions good passes dropped. Now whose fault is it. Vick throws to hard? No its just because the receivers dont have the greatest hands. And who gives a sh*t about stats. All that really matters is these 2 stats wins and losses. And in the past few seasons Vick has been getting wins. 8-7 last year (missed one game)11-5 in '04-05 led them to NFC Championship4-1 in '03-04 broke leg only started final 5 games9-6-1 in 02'-03 first team to defeat the packers in Lambeau in the playoffs led by VickSo you may say he isnt a great passer but he does help them win the games with those records i just show you he has finished above .500 each of his years he has been the starting quarterback in Atlanta and thats all that matters. Wins and LossesBTW Bcb: I read an article and it was Falcons and Ravens not raiders
Re: Moss: 'I wanted to go to the Falcons or Raiders' Why wouldn't Vick-Moss work? Vick scrambles, Moss runs downfield. Vick chucks it 60 yds, Moss jumps over the defender and grabs it.Its that simple, I see all this analysis like it's some sort of complicated formula. Run, chuck, catch.Give me one good reason why it wouldnt work. Throw the ball in Randy Moss' vicinity, he'll catch it. See when Culpepper tried that last season w/o Moss, and he looked like a clown throwing all those INTsI guarantee you Aaron Brooks will have a career season, just watch
Re: Moss: 'I wanted to go to the Falcons or Raiders' WTF? Donovan McNabb was still a very good QB before TO, and he had no targets at all. His best target was Toodd Pinkston. Vick has another problem. He cant throw a ball. He is not a drop back QB. He doesnt like to pass to WR's on the run much either. Therefor, Randy Moss would whine about how few touches he was getting, and how bad Vick is at passing..
Re: Moss: 'I wanted to go to the Falcons or Raiders' I'm not saying Vick is good and everybody knows McNabb is better. But it would help Vick tremendously if he had a target like Moss. But Vick doesnt like to pass to the WR's cus they suck ass. Look at the roster, the WR's are so weakAnd Moss and TO are 2 different players.
Re: Moss: 'I wanted to go to the Falcons or Raiders' Yeah, but Im saying that Moss woudlnt survive in an offense with Vick at the helm. Vick likes to roll around, which makes it harder for him to throw to WR's all the time. He has bad aim which benefits the TE more then the WR. If you throw an off-ball to a TE they could still probably be in position to catch it. If you throw an off ball to a WR it is very hard for him to maneuver around so he can catch the ball. He doesnt like to throw to WR's. It's a proven fact. Moss wouldnt get the ball enough to satisfy hi demands.
Re: Moss: 'I wanted to go to the Falcons or Raiders' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 19 2006, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, but Im saying that Moss woudlnt survive in an offense with Vick at the helm. Vick likes to roll around, which makes it harder for him to throw to WR's all the time. He has bad aim which benefits the TE more then the WR. If you throw an off-ball to a TE they could still probably be in position to catch it. If you throw an off ball to a WR it is very hard for him to maneuver around so he can catch the ball. He doesnt like to throw to WR's. It's a proven fact. Moss wouldnt get the ball enough to satisfy hi demands.</div>Actually, Vick's scrambling would probably benefit Moss because doesnt like to run set routes. He just likes to run downfield and if Vick is running, the defense starts to play up on him leaving Moss usually in single coverage. Vick just had to throw in his vicinity like Culpepper did and you've seen wat he's capable of. IDK, I guess it's all about opinion, I think Vick and Moss would work well because neither like to run set plays and with one scrambling and chucking and the other catching it would work
