<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kobe 8 Ball:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually, about 3 weeks ago..Kobe stepped up and said that he wanted Lamar to be the main ball handler, but the coach didn't go with it until last game when assistant coach Brian Shaw suggested it. Kobe doesn't hold the ball as much as haters (I am not calling you a Kobe hater) think, they just want to find another reason to hate Kobe for. I agree though, Wade is great. Me, personally, would rather have him than Bron, I don't think he is better than Bron, but I like Wade more. Bron is a better 3 pt shooter, not by much, but he is. Also, Wade is the second option with Shaq, that means he is going to get points, just look at the past...Penny got his stats with Shaq, so did Kobe. I really don't think anyone thought that Wade wouldn't get his points and assists, just not as much as he is getting. Having Shaq has really helped him develop faster, but I still don't think he is underrated.</div> Well yah I guess your right, but I still think kobe holds the ball alot more than wade (even though kobe is still very effective, more so than wade with the rock) but I just think Bron and Melo overshadow him alot more than they should.
Overrated: Yao Ming: Anyone at 7"6, drops 40 in the olympics ... and then manages to score 8 points and 3 rebs some nights is pretty lame . Every year I expect a monster year from Yao as does everyone. Yao should be a 25+ ppg 10+ rpg for at least a couple seasons. Chris Webber - Kings offense really kept his statistics up there. Marbury - Calls himself the best point guard in the league. Statistically seems impressive, however he is too selfish. Lebron - Has yet to accomplish anything. People say he is the next Jordan. That is being overrated. The game runs through him, and when I watch him, I just don't see him dominate. I'm not saying he is not a good player, just I personally believe he is overrated. Peja - Seems to chuck up 3s too much, doesn't play defense or rebound. Doesn't really hustle and pretty much many dimensions of his game are weak. Kobe - is a great player. however people had such high expectations for him. Which made him overrated. Kobe, Lamar, and Caron has been a dissapointment so far. Its true though, Mihm needs some new hands. Underrated: Bosh: Any player in Canada, playing on a struggling Raptors Team does not get the media coverage or the respect of other players. Except from Raptors fans, who love him. Anyway, to compare Bosh and Wade is very difficult. Wade does have Shaq, and that really helps out Wade's stats. You may point out that when Shaq is out, Wade plays much better statistically. However, Wade obviously steps it up when Shaq is gone. He would not manage to do so for 60 games or more of the season. Bosh is also a very talented PF, and big men are considered more valuable b/c they are rare. Therefore I think Bosh is quite underrated. When I read about the rookie-sophmore game, most didn't talk about Bosh, who had the best stat line imo. They talked about Bron and Wade a lot and little mention of Bosh. Brad Miller - has such exceptional passing ability and all-around game. Has post ability, can shoot 18 footers, plays good defense. Brevin Knight - is doing such a good job, but does get much love, being on the bobcats. Shawn Marion - Such a hustle player, dirty shot though. What can he do with 2 other all-star mvp potential players on the same team. Elton Brand - Hard-worker, if he gets on a team with a winning record, he might become an all-star.
Yao Ming is so god damn overrated i wanna throw up!!!!!! in the AS game he is like a inch away from the basket and shoots three times on front of the hoop and then has to do a easy ass dunk without even hopping and that dunk made it to highlights!!!!!! later on in the game yao gets a free jumper really close to the basket and that gets in highlights to!!!!!!!!!! i hate Yao. Underrated: Elton Brand, Corey Maggette, Donnyell Marshall,Brevin Knight.
[quote name='norespect']Under Rated Drew Gooden - Other than Lebron, is there another reason why the cavs are doing so good? Exit Boozer, Enter Gooden. He avgs 15pts, 10rebs per game, and is 9th in the L in boards per game and 14th in field goal %. The cavs exercised the team option on his contract for '06 where he'll be making 4 mill. Bobby Simmons - This is the first year Simmons has been gettin some serious minutes, and all he has done is delivered. 16ppg 6rpg and 3apg, Simmons is not mentioned by anyone, but is one of the reasons the Clippers might actually....really.....truly........be on the rise.....maybe. Jason Hart - He only gets 22 minutes per game, but makes the most of it. Close to 10ppg, 6apg, #4 in the league in assits per turnover, and #19th in steals per game. I think the cats should give him some serious minutes and see what he can do. Zach Randolph - His numbers have dropped off a bit from last year, but nobody is talking about him. He has been injured, but 19pts and 10rebs per game should get more hoopla. He does have a monster contract 84 million through 2011, but who dosen't these days? Pau Gasol - Everybody knows Gasol is good, but this boy has been averaging more than 18 points and and 8 rebs his whole career. Does play on a team thats viewed as more of a "complete team" than most in the nba, with no stars. He only plays 33 mins a game, up that and see his numbers climb. OVERRATED Brad Miller - What does 16 ppg and 9 rpg get you, a 7 year 67 million dollar contract, but not much else. Sure he gets paid well, but he gets no recognition, he's the 5th option on an offensivly tallented team, still manages 16ppg, and is always a warrior in the paint. Over Rated Keith Van Horn - I've actually been reading posts by Knicks fans saying the departure of KVH is the reason that the Knicks stink. Sure Tim Thomas has been one of the biggest busts in recent memory but KVH is by far the highest-paid Buck, chews up a quarter of the team's payroll and has only chipped in 11.3 points and 5.7 rebounds per game, when he's been healthy. Van Horn's good, but not great, and he'll be 30 by the start of the 05-06 season. PS HE MAKES $14,487,000. Allan Iverson - I know i'm gonna catch heat for this one. This guy is a pro. He plays hurt, leads his teammates, demands the ball in crunch time.....no wait demands the ball when their down...up.....ALL THE TIME. He already has 1119 field goal attempts, of course leading the league. He shoots a very crappy 41% from the field. This is one of his better years, he is averaging more than 7 assits per game, but he gets way too much credit. He is not a bad player, he's actually very good, but nontheless over rated by many. The Answer? Not if the question is "Hey Allen, can I see the ball for a sec?" I agree with some of what you said except the Brad Miller thing. Hes abit overrated. He was brought to SAC Town to bring a championship and he gets hurt. He could of showed that he was good by replacing Webber but where is he? Oh Yeah hes hurt! About Jason Hart. Agreed. I didnt know that he was doing that good. Hes the most underrated player on your list. True Dat bout Iverson. Ive been telling my brother that all these years. He shoots too much for a guy trying to lead his team to the playoffs. He needs to try to get the ball around to everybody. KVH Agreed cuz he hasnt progressed since he was averaging 21 pts My own players Underrated Dirk Nowitzki is underrated cuz of KG and Duncan. People are always talking bout them and not Dirk. Hes the main reason why Dallas is so good. Overrated VC. Yes, I mean Vince Carter. All he can do is dunk. Hes been doing good since the trade but they arent winning. He doesnt make other players better. He reminds me of Iverson. He still made the All Star game after sayin he didnt play hard every night.
I can't believe nobody's mentioned CWebb yet as overrated. IMO possibly the most overrated player in the game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">VC. Yes, I mean Vince Carter. All he can do is dunk. Hes been doing good since the trade but they arent winning. He doesnt make other players better. He reminds me of Iverson. He still made the All Star game after sayin he didnt play hard every night. </div> Carter hasn't been overatted for a long while, he's just overatted in All-Star votes because he's popular, but saying he doesn't make other players better is laughable. The Nets are a .500 team with him, and he averages 5 assists a game playing next to Kidd and passing to the likes of Best, Vaughn, Collins and Kristic. He played bad as a Raptor this season, but his game hardly has anything to do with dunking, he's a very good player that knows how to dunk well, not a dunker, he averages a dunk every 2 games. Calling Vince a dunker is like calling any of the other good swingmen who can dunk "dunkers". He's shooting about 41% from 3PT range, grabbing 6 boards a game, getting to the line about 7 times a game as a Net, and dishing out 5 assists, don't know what's overatted in that.
#1. I think Yao Ming can be overrated. When people say he could be the best center ever, thats ridiculous. He just isn't agressive all the time, when he dominate the cenner position like Shaq does. #2. Carter. C'mon guys, these days when you say all the Vince can do is dunk, you sound incrdibly ignorant. He hardly does much dunking anymore(when he does, its a huge one) but when you say that you pretty much show that you've hardly ever watched him play, or watch with your eyes closed. He can hit his jumpers and pass effeciently(He hit several threes in the All-Star game) Im not saying hes spectacular, but the buzz about him in New Jersey has nothing to so with his dunks. #3. Bosh vs Wade Come on now, saying Bosh is better than Wade is extremely ignorant as well. Wade basically can force any play to work, is a great passer, can hit any kind of jumper.... Bosh is doing pretty well, but hes not even in the same league Wade is. I have to also honestly say that Wade can probably score more in the paint than Bosh, since he can penetrate possibly better than anyone in the league. I'm not gonna drag on about this one, becase the poster obviously thinks he is correct, but just hold the opinion and wait to see who ends up doing better, and maybe watch him play too. Bosh and Carmelo though, thats a lot closer.
Kobe can be considered Over-rated and Under-rated by many. To me, I know that Kobe is the one who really, "steps up to the plate, and gets the Lakers somewhere". He is very talented, and his skills shine during games. And he works about twice as hard as most NBA stars during off-season. P.S. I had a friend who said Jordan was over-rated. . .
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post"> Carter hasn't been overatted for a long while, he's just overatted in All-Star votes because he's popular, but saying he doesn't make other players better is laughable. The Nets are a .500 team with him, and he averages 5 assists a game playing next to Kidd and passing to the likes of Best, Vaughn, Collins and Kristic. He played bad as a Raptor this season, but his game hardly has anything to do with dunking, he's a very good player that knows how to dunk well, not a dunker, he averages a dunk every 2 games. Calling Vince a dunker is like calling any of the other good swingmen who can dunk "dunkers". He's shooting about 41% from 3PT range, grabbing 6 boards a game, getting to the line about 7 times a game as a Net, and dishing out 5 assists, don't know what's overatted in that.</div> so true...his stats don't lie...and he shouldn't be blame if the team isn't winning...His teammates shud be snce he's the only consistent Net right now...
Underrated: Elton Brand - he is just getting too little credit for his work. This guy should be an all-star.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting j_a_d_e:</div><div class="quote_post">so true...his stats don't lie...and he shouldn't be blame if the team isn't winning...His teammates shud be snce he's the only consistent Net right now...</div> ...and to add, he seems to be taking away the thought that he's not willing to drive. February: 8.5 FT attempts a game [90%] March: 9.6 FT attempts a game [84.6%]
how the heck can A.i be overrated? he is dropping over 40 day after day sometimes i feel like he is underrated. overrated: stephon marbury latrell sprewell chris webber Underrated: jon barry michael pietrus tim thomas eddie jones
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">michael pietrus</div> I like Pietrus, but he's not done enough to be considered underatted, he's definately a good young prospect though, and if he fully develops, a legit DPOY candidate in the future. Also Jon Barry isn't underatted at all at this point in his career, he's a role player who can bring veteran leadership, shooting, and passing, no more, no one discredits him from being able to do that. Tim Thomas? Is this because of his current high scoring barrage? Eddie Jones? I don't know, no one really underatte's him, a good veteran on both ends of the floor, but that's about all.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Tim Thomas? Is this because of his current high scoring barrage? Eddie Jones? I don't know, no one really underatte's him, a good veteran on both ends of the floor, but that's about all.</div> Whoa, taht got me off guard too! But, I guess no one realizes that now he shoots 43% from downtown and that's good for 7th in the league. I guess that is kind of underrated. I don't know :-/
Not getting into the Bosh vs. Wade argument, but from what little i've seen, Bosh has the makings of a very, very special player. Give him a couple of years, and he'll be THE dominant post player in the league.
