Most overrate player.

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  1. jetlee6509

    jetlee6509 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Look Pierce cant be a overated player this guy leads his team in points , rebounds, and assists. The most overated player has to be vince carter. vince plays lil deffense at all he cant lead his team to playoffs he whines and is always injured i was a major fan of vince but not anymore. I would say Lebron is comin close to vince but i cant get mad at lebron cause he is a rook but we all kno lebron moves his feet so slowly on deffence and has very lil jumpshot but that will all change hopefully
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting jetlee6509:</div><div class="quote_post">Look Pierce cant be a overated player this guy leads his team in points , rebounds, and assists. The most overated player has to be vince carter. vince plays lil deffense at all he cant lead his team to playoffs he whines and is always injured i was a major fan of vince but not anymore. I would say Lebron is comin close to vince but i cant get mad at lebron cause he is a rook but we all kno lebron moves his feet so slowly on deffence and has very lil jumpshot but that will all change hopefully</div>

    Your argument doesn't make any sense at all. You say that Pierce can't be overrated because he leads his team in points, rebounds (which is not true since Blount leads Boston in rebounds) and assists. So basically Pierce laeads Boston in points and assists, which is exactly what Vince is doing, leading the Raps in points and assists.

    Your "leading his team to the playoffs", really had no weight either. Boston barely made the playoffs and were only 3 games better than the Raps last season. Vince and Pierce have both taken their teams to the playoffs before and neither has been very far (Pierce did take his team to the conference finals but that when Walker was still there). Vince took the Raps to game 7 of the conference semifinals so it's pretty much a wash.
     
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    vince is more overated then peirce is vince got way more money vince basically has his say in the team. Vince has bosh,marshall,and rose and still couldn get his team in the playoffs while pierces team was rebuildin he sitll got his team in the playoffs. The question was who is the most OVERATED player and its vince carter in no way should he be voted to start a all star game for the east he hasnt proved anythin in a while im not sayin vince is aa bad player but he is overarted
     
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    Vince and Pierce are getting paid EXACTLY the same amount of money. Both are signed to max deals. I'm not arguing with whether Vince or Pierce are overrated or who is more overrated, I just have a problem with your reasoning.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting kevinduncan_21:</div><div class="quote_post">First of allif Vince n Kobe traded places VC would get more double doubles than a coffee...second of all Jason Kidd is a point guard...HE IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE HIS TEAM BETTER! And KG maybe makes his team better because of the talent they have. they have 4 allstars and struggled with the Kings! Who's on the spurs...tony parker, ginobili,nesterovich, turkolu...nesteraavich suked in MINNESOTA and came to san antonio and averaged a double-double, turkalu was 15 min. per game at sacramento came to san antoinio hes a starter. Tim Duncan makes all these players better....KG has way way way wayyyyyyyyyy more talent than the spurs but the spurs are still better. thats y i say maybe!!!</div>

    -I doubt Vince would average a double double is he was on the Lakers. He prolly average 2 more assist than he does now. Shaq can create his own shots ya know.
    - Raso didnt average a double double get yourr facts staright. Timmy didnt make Rasho better he still sucks. Even though I agree with you that Timmy makes players better around him more than KG.

    Rasho in San Antonio
    PPG 8.7
    RPG 7.7
    APG 1.4
    SPG .62
    BPG 2.01
    FG% .469
    FT% .474

    Rasho in Minnesota
    PPG 11.2
    RPG 6.50
    APG 1.5
    SPG 1.5
    BPG 1.51
    FG% .525%
    FT% .642%

    By looking at these stats he looks better to me.
    -The only thing your right about is that Tim Duncan is better than Kevin Garnett
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">vince is more overated then peirce is vince got way more money vince basically has his say in the team. Vince has bosh,marshall,and rose and still couldn get his team in the playoffs while pierces team was rebuildin he sitll got his team in the playoffs. The question was who is the most OVERATED player and its vince carter in no way should he be voted to start a all star game for the east he hasnt proved anythin in a while im not sayin vince is aa bad player but he is overarted</div>
    It's funny because by saying this it means you likely know nothing about the team you're talking about (Raptors), or chose to neglect what you might know.

    Also I don't know who you expected to beat him as an East Foward, but when you find that person, you tell me.
     
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    top 3 most overated players in the nba:

    1. carlos boozer, the guy has no real talent and you consider his contract money
    2. micheal olowakandi, almost useless in the playoffs
    3. allan houston, used to be good when younger, but now all he has is the REALLY SWEET looking J.

    honourable mentions: vince carter(cmon on buck up!), jamaal crawford, i am tempted to put peja, who IMO is think is all-star, but not MVP caliber, after reading some of the posts, but then i realised, who wants peja to hustle and get rebounds. his role is to provide offence, not to be an energy guy. yes being a bad post defender at 6'10 is a little bad, but dude has been playing small forward all his life, not some big,beefy post banger. look at his court IQ people, look at the way he moves during offensive plays. 3 words : smooth and savvy
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">i am tempted to put peja, who IMO is think is all-star, but not MVP caliber, after reading some of the posts, but then i realised, who wants peja to hustle and get rebounds. his role is to provide offence, not to be an energy guy. yes being a bad post defender at 6'10 is a little bad, but dude has been playing small forward all his life, not some big,beefy post banger. look at his court IQ people, look at the way he moves during offensive plays. 3 words : smooth and savvy</div>

    exaclty, its like ask Shaq to shoots three's and be the playmaker
     
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    #1. Michael Olowakandi No Doubt in my mind [​IMG]
     
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    Did everyone forget about the one 1D player, too much credit, has weak game, but played with good players RICHARD JEFFERSON. HHMM lets see

    1. he has poor ballhandling ability

    2. he cant hit a jumpshot to save his life

    3. Randy brown has better Defence

    4. he cant create his own baskets

    5. He can dunk but only when set up by kidd

    6 and he looked like an idiot in the slam dunk contest with his basic dunks.

    if kidd didnt play for the net the boy would average 7.2 points a game.
    I nominat RICHARD JEFFERSON for the 15 most overrated players of all time as #15.
     
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    IF anything RJ is underated,he stays consistant most of the season and doesnt get injured a lot.

    He is the Nets leading scorer,the Nets probally need Richard Jefferson more then they need J-Kidd,he averaged 21ppg 6rpg and 3apg in the playoffs,he can hit jumpers even though that isnt the best aspect of his game,and he deffiantly is a good defender,he also runs the floor very well Richard Jefferson is a future all starand a hard worker,thats why the Nets signed him a huge extension.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Silky Smooth:</div><div class="quote_post">IF anything RJ is underated,he stays consistant most of the season and doesnt get injured a lot.

    He is the Nets leading scorer,the Nets probally need Richard Jefferson more then they need J-Kidd,he averaged 21ppg 6rpg and 3apg in the playoffs,he can hit jumpers even though that isnt the best aspect of his game,and he deffiantly is a good defender,he also runs the floor very well Richard Jefferson is a future all starand a hard worker,thats why the Nets signed him a huge extension.</div>

    comon man Jefferson better than kidd? thats like saying worthy was better than magic. all that in saying is that kidd makes the game a Whooooooole lot easier for him and without kidd jefferson is a taller dwayne wagner (spelling).
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">if kidd didnt play for the net the boy would average 7.2 points a game.
    I nominat RICHARD JEFFERSON for the 15 most overrated players of all time as #15.</div>

    I'm not sure I agree with this. Let me say first that I, being a Celtics fan, hate the nets and everyone on them. Never been a fan of Jefferson, and his voice really annoys me. But I do actually think he's a decent player. Of course having JKidd makes him better, he makes everyone around him better. But do you remember late last season when both KMart and JKidd were out with injuries? Jefferson really elevated his game. He may be a bit over-rated because of his dunks and the fact that he has Kidd on his team, but no way is he #15 of ALL TIME.

    He did make a fool of himself in the dunk contest though, didn't he?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">comon man Jefferson better than kidd? thats like saying worthy was better than magic. all that in saying is that kidd makes the game a Whooooooole lot easier for him and without kidd jefferson is a taller dwayne wagner (spelling).</div>
    Well of course Kidd make him better to a certain extent,but he makes everybody on the team better period.I am not saying RJ is a bettr player then Kidd but these days I would take RJ before Kidd who might be slightly declining.
     

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