<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Illosophee @ Sep 12 2006, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Aren't you pretty much saying what everyone is saying about the Bulls? How do we know whether or not the Minnesota Timberwolves will get any better? Wait until the season begins, okay? I'm considering them "sucky" because of the past several seasons. I'm not counting the 06-07 season because, quite frankly, it hasn't begun yet. Now silence, you amateur! Pray to your basketball God! :worthy:</div>Everyone is saying that the bulls are going to the championship. That is a big difference from calling a team a sucky one when in fact they could very easily make it to the playoffs next year. So there is no real correlation what so ever. And that is why they are an underrated team, because nobody is giving them much of a chance for next season. That is what this whole thread is about....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Sep 13 2006, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You shouldnt have posted this. You know im going to come after you if you diss my Raps.How has this team become a playoff contender? Well, they have a great offense, we now have post defense with Rasho, and we have alot more depth and talent. We have Euro flavour, bosh is improving, we have a playmaker pg, and we revampd like 3/5 of the roster. We atleast have a shot at the playoffs.Only noteable move was TJ Ford? Hardly. You obviously havnt been paying attention to our transactions. We got Euro stars Bargnani, Anthony Parker, and Garbajosa, we got an athletic guard in Fred Jones, a new center with good D in Rasho, (who we drafted 2 years back), Kris Humphries, and PJ Tucker. So we obviously have a ton of noteable new players playing for us.Not true. We got Kris Humphries who will play PF, and Garbajosa, but Garb will spend time at C, and SF as well because he can shoot the ball. Andrea will play center almost every time he steps out on the court. So no, not really. Youre wrong there. We got a ton of players that play other positions than PF, who I already listed.Oh really? All the Euro guys are suddenly bad because you have never seen or heard of them? Not true. Colangelo is smart. He has seen them play, and he knows they will be valuable to our team. Plus, Nesterovic and Fred Jones are no-names? I think not. Nesterovic is key for us, because we now finally have a Center who will play defense for us, and Fred Jones who will battle for Anthony Parker for the starting two-guard position. He is very athletic, he can shoot the mid-range, and he can create with his speed.So Nesterovic, Fred Jones, and Anthony Parker arent helping our D at all? Thats where you are wrong. Now Fred and Mo Pete will provide decent perim. D. Nesterovic, Mo Pete, Darrick Martin and others will provide leadership? We didnt fill any holes? What about the 2 guard hole? We completely filled that. We only had one two last year after trading Jalen. Now we have three guys who will spend time there, although Mo will start at the wing. Anthony Parker and Fred Jones definately fill our problems at the two.And our defense will get alot better because of Fred and Nesterovic, trust me. We will still have bad D, but so do the Wizards, and Suns. They are still automatic playoff teams. Toward the top of the lottery? I think not. Lets bet on it then, if you are so sure about that.There ya go. I just dissected your post. nobody gets away with bashing the Raps we'll im watching. :bat:</div>1. Yes you guys revamped but you barely helped anywhere excpet your offense and getting a playmaking pg. The defense is still horrible whether you got Rasho or not. He can't make your team above mediocracy on defense. Also you still have no real veteran leadership. Failed t give an explanation for that. 2. I'm saying that the TJ Ford trade was the only move they made that actually filled a hole. They needed a playmaker and they got one. I love how you mention Euro stars. Your talking about players we haven't seen play one game in the pros except for parker who hasn't exacly had a ton of success in this league and is old. We still don't know how bargnani or Garbajosa will do in the pros. Rasho does bring post defense but he is getting older and his game has already shown signs of declining in the past two seasons. I forgot about Fred Jones and will give them credit for getting him because he should be a good player off the bench for you guys. 3. ok your right maybe I shouldn't have said PF. how about you guys have a total of 10 players in your frontcourt and only about 5 backcourt players. Also 8 of those 10 frontcourt players are PF's or C's so yes you guys do have a logjam it that area and a lot of these players will fight for playing time. 4. WTF? Where did I bash Euro players in my previous post? I see your still saying people are saying things they never said. I'm not even gonna bother responding to something I never said...5. Rasho and Parker are both on the decline and their defensive production will go down and Fred Jones isn't good enough to honeslty make their defense good. Also Rasho and Parker both will not be getting huge playing time and will come off of the bench and Mopete is more of a role player. He didn't bring much vet. leadership last season did he?6. Yes exactly you just admitted it. Your team's defense will still be horrible and that's what I'm saying. They got players who will help it but not enough to actually make it above mediocracy if that. The Wizards and Suns? Don't make me laugh. The Suns have the most stacked offensive team in the league and an offensive system that works great for them. They also have veteran leadership, more experience and one of the best coaches in the league. Plus there D is even arguably better than the Raptors. Raja Bell is a very good perimeter defender. Shawn Marion is one of the best defensive players in the league and is a dpoy candidate. Also Kurt Thomas brings great post defense. That's just players in their starting 5 too. As for the Wizards they have also a better offense than the Raptors. They haveGilbert Arenas bringing them 30 ppg a night, Antawn Jamison getting 20 and 10 a night and Caron Butler who has become a very good role player for them. They also have a older and more experienced team than the Raptors. You honestly can't compare the Raptors to the Suns or even the Wizards. Anyways I'm not saying that Colangelo isn't taking this team in the right direction, I'm just saying I doubt they are good enough or experienced enough to make the playoffs. I mean they are basically rebuilding the franchise and since when are teams good enough to make the playoffs in the rebuilding year?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Sep 13 2006, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You shouldnt have posted this. You know im going to come after you if you diss my Raps.How has this team become a playoff contender? Well, they have a great offense, we now have post defense with Rasho, and we have alot more depth and talent. We have Euro flavour, bosh is improving, we have a playmaker pg, and we revampd like 3/5 of the roster. We atleast have a shot at the playoffs.Only noteable move was TJ Ford? Hardly. You obviously havnt been paying attention to our transactions. We got Euro stars Bargnani, Anthony Parker, and Garbajosa, we got an athletic guard in Fred Jones, a new center with good D in Rasho, (who we drafted 2 years back), Kris Humphries, and PJ Tucker. So we obviously have a ton of noteable new players playing for us.Not true. We got Kris Humphries who will play PF, and Garbajosa, but Garb will spend time at C, and SF as well because he can shoot the ball. Andrea will play center almost every time he steps out on the court. So no, not really. Youre wrong there. We got a ton of players that play other positions than PF, who I already listed.Oh really? All the Euro guys are suddenly bad because you have never seen or heard of them? Not true. Colangelo is smart. He has seen them play, and he knows they will be valuable to our team. Plus, Nesterovic and Fred Jones are no-names? I think not. Nesterovic is key for us, because we now finally have a Center who will play defense for us, and Fred Jones who will battle for Anthony Parker for the starting two-guard position. He is very athletic, he can shoot the mid-range, and he can create with his speed.So Nesterovic, Fred Jones, and Anthony Parker arent helping our D at all? Thats where you are wrong. Now Fred and Mo Pete will provide decent perim. D. Nesterovic, Mo Pete, Darrick Martin and others will provide leadership? We didnt fill any holes? What about the 2 guard hole? We completely filled that. We only had one two last year after trading Jalen. Now we have three guys who will spend time there, although Mo will start at the wing. Anthony Parker and Fred Jones definately fill our problems at the two.And our defense will get alot better because of Fred and Nesterovic, trust me. We will still have bad D, but so do the Wizards, and Suns. They are still automatic playoff teams. Toward the top of the lottery? I think not. Lets bet on it then, if you are so sure about that.There ya go. I just dissected your post. nobody gets away with bashing the Raps we'll im watching. :bat:</div> Again, your making average moves out to be bigger then they are. Sorry that some of us don't pay attention to such amazing off-season moves as Garbajosa, Parker, Jones and Kris Humpries. Whoopty.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Sep 13 2006, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. Yes you guys revamped but you barely helped anywhere excpet your offense and getting a playmaking pg. The defense is still horrible whether you got Rasho or not. He can't make your team above mediocracy on defense. Also you still have no real veteran leadership. Failed t give an explanation for that. 2. I'm saying that the TJ Ford trade was the only move they made that actually filled a hole. They needed a playmaker and they got one. I love how you mention Euro stars. Your talking about players we haven't seen play one game in the pros except for parker who hasn't exacly had a ton of success in this league and is old. We still don't know how bargnani or Garbajosa will do in the pros. Rasho does bring post defense but he is getting older and his game has already shown signs of declining in the past two seasons. I forgot about Fred Jones and will give them credit for getting him because he should be a good player off the bench for you guys. 3. ok your right maybe I shouldn't have said PF. how about you guys have a total of 10 players in your frontcourt and only about 5 backcourt players. Also 8 of those 10 frontcourt players are PF's or C's so yes you guys do have a logjam it that area and a lot of these players will fight for playing time. 4. WTF? Where did I bash Euro players in my previous post? I see your still saying people are saying things they never said. I'm not even gonna bother responding to something I never said...5. Rasho and Parker are both on the decline and their defensive production will go down and Fred Jones isn't good enough to honeslty make their defense good. Also Rasho and Parker both will not be getting huge playing time and will come off of the bench and Mopete is more of a role player. He didn't bring much vet. leadership last season did he?6. Yes exactly you just admitted it. Your team's defense will still be horrible and that's what I'm saying. They got players who will help it but not enough to actually make it above mediocracy if that. The Wizards and Suns? Don't make me laugh. The Suns have the most stacked offensive team in the league and an offensive system that works great for them. They also have veteran leadership, more experience and one of the best coaches in the league. Plus there D is even arguably better than the Raptors. Raja Bell is a very good perimeter defender. Shawn Marion is one of the best defensive players in the league and is a dpoy candidate. Also Kurt Thomas brings great post defense. That's just players in their starting 5 too. As for the Wizards they have also a better offense than the Raptors. They haveGilbert Arenas bringing them 30 ppg a night, Antawn Jamison getting 20 and 10 a night and Caron Butler who has become a very good role player for them. They also have a older and more experienced team than the Raptors. You honestly can't compare the Raptors to the Suns or even the Wizards. Anyways I'm not saying that Colangelo isn't taking this team in the right direction, I'm just saying I doubt they are good enough or experienced enough to make the playoffs. I mean they are basically rebuilding the franchise and since when are teams good enough to make the playoffs in the rebuilding year?</div>We barely helped anywhere? Is that the smell of bs? We helped our depth a ton. We have alot more depth then we did last year, and we helped our defense alot by getting a defensive center in Nesterovic. Some of you may not think thats great, but we had to put Hoffa and Charlie V on defense last year at the Center position. We also got Freddy Jones, who is a pesky perimeter defender. We did improve our D, whether you want to admit it or not. We dont need Rasho to be great for us. He is just the hardcover for our book. He will be useful until Bargnani becomes a legit starting Center, which could be 2-3 years. Okay, but you are still wrong. We obviously filled our 2 guard hole because our two 2's are two new players. (Ah! Talk about a tongue twister). So you are wrong with that statement. We also filled our Center hole by getting Rasho. So that statement is blatantly false.Our defense may still be bad, but we can survive on mediocre defense, just like the Wizards, Suns, and Sonics (04-05) did in the past. Did the Baby Bulls have a ton of leadership? No. But they still did well. I already gave you that explanation. We have Mo Pete, Rasho Nesterovic, Darrick Martin for veteran leadership.What's wrong with having a ton of PF's/C's. I think that is a good thing. We have alot of depth everywhere, and 5 backcourt players isnt neccisarily bad. You didnt count Mo Pete. He is a swingman and can help us out at SG when needed anyway. Also, your logic is obviously wrong. Mo Pete, PJ, and Joey are all SF's, so it is 7/10 that are big men. And that is not totally bad at all considering Garbajosa will get time at SF like I already told you. A logjam? We dont neccisarily have to play all the Euro guys if they dont show anything. Some will be on the IR list.No, you called all our other signings as "No Name Players". Thats what you said. So I told you that just because you have never heard of Euro players doesn't mean they will never make an impact. Look at Ginobili. He was picked 57th or 58th, and now he is a legit guard in the NBA, and a key part to their last championship.Parker is on the decline? He hasnt even played in the NBA for one season since coming from Europe. And I dont even care if these guys are aging. They are both short-term solutions, and should only be on our roster for like 2 seasons, counting the upcoming one. How does ones defense go down once they get older? That doesn't make much sense to me. They wont be getting huge PT? Okay, Im glad that Mr. Raptors scout informed me about that. That is bullsh**. Rasho is a guarentee to start for us, and should get more PT then he got with the Spurs. Anthony Parker on the other hand is thought by many as the Raptors starting two next year, instead of Fred. So that statement was pure bullsh**. Haha, you hjust said that Rasho WILL come off the bench? LMAO, you just lost all respect from me in this argument. That is one of the stupidest things ever said on this forum. Rasho IS A GUARENTEE TO START. And Mo is a role player? Yeah? Alright man. Ill take your word on that one if you think getting 17 points and 5 rpg, + good D and leadership AS THE THIRD OPTION, is just pure role player status. Mo has a shot at 20 ppg, so you can stop delivering the BS here ASAP. No vet leadership, eh? So getting those numbers as the 3rd option, being the clear veteran leader on the team, playing in every game, and not once complaining is not showing any leadership? Haha, this debate reminds me of a fight between a heavyweight boxer and a 90 year old grandma. Lmao.The Suns will probably have just as bad defense as us last year. They are still a top team. The Zards also have sh*t defense. Defense doesn't matter really, as long as you have a really efficient offense. We will be alot better at D next year, anyway because Chris Bosh and Joey Graham are also improving at that area. I was using that as an explanation that you dont have to have great defense to win games. We also have a top-notch offense, seeing as the Raps were 2nd in the League in ppg averages next to the Suns.My ending point is that they are a playoff contender, and they will be in the hunt. I dont care what others think, honestly because they are just using our past to say that we suck.
CB4, you make your average FA signings out to be way better than they are....'We are deeper than last year!'...Yeah, with unproven/average bench players.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Suns will probably have just as bad defense as us last year. They are still a top team. The Zards also have sh*t defense. Defense doesn't matter really, as long as you have a really efficient offense. We will be alot better at D next year, anyway because Chris Bosh and Joey Graham are also improving at that area. I was using that as an explanation that you dont have to have great defense to win games. We also have a top-notch offense, seeing as the Raps were 2nd in the League in ppg averages next to the Suns.</div> Stop comparing yourself to the Suns, my lord...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Sep 13 2006, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We barely helped anywhere? Is that the smell of bs? We helped our depth a ton. We have alot more depth then we did last year, and we helped our defense alot by getting a defensive center in Nesterovic. Some of you may not think thats great, but we had to put Hoffa and Charlie V on defense last year at the Center position. We also got Freddy Jones, who is a pesky perimeter defender. We did improve our D, whether you want to admit it or not. We dont need Rasho to be great for us. He is just the hardcover for our book. He will be useful until Bargnani becomes a legit starting Center, which could be 2-3 years. Okay, but you are still wrong. We obviously filled our 2 guard hole because our two 2's are two new players. (Ah! Talk about a tongue twister). So you are wrong with that statement. We also filled our Center hole by getting Rasho. So that statement is blatantly false.Our defense may still be bad, but we can survive on mediocre defense, just like the Wizards, Suns, and Sonics (04-05) did in the past. Did the Baby Bulls have a ton of leadership? No. But they still did well. I already gave you that explanation. We have Mo Pete, Rasho Nesterovic, Darrick Martin for veteran leadership.What's wrong with having a ton of PF's/C's. I think that is a good thing. We have alot of depth everywhere, and 5 backcourt players isnt neccisarily bad. You didnt count Mo Pete. He is a swingman and can help us out at SG when needed anyway. Also, your logic is obviously wrong. Mo Pete, PJ, and Joey are all SF's, so it is 7/10 that are big men. And that is not totally bad at all considering Garbajosa will get time at SF like I already told you. A logjam? We dont neccisarily have to play all the Euro guys if they dont show anything. Some will be on the IR list.No, you called all our other signings as "No Name Players". Thats what you said. So I told you that just because you have never heard of Euro players doesn't mean they will never make an impact. Look at Ginobili. He was picked 57th or 58th, and now he is a legit guard in the NBA, and a key part to their last championship.Parker is on the decline? He hasnt even played in the NBA for one season since coming from Europe. And I dont even care if these guys are aging. They are both short-term solutions, and should only be on our roster for like 2 seasons, counting the upcoming one. How does ones defense go down once they get older? That doesn't make much sense to me. They wont be getting huge PT? Okay, Im glad that Mr. Raptors scout informed me about that. That is bullsh**. Rasho is a guarentee to start for us, and should get more PT then he got with the Spurs. Anthony Parker on the other hand is thought by many as the Raptors starting two next year, instead of Fred. So that statement was pure bullsh**. Haha, you hjust said that Rasho WILL come off the bench? LMAO, you just lost all respect from me in this argument. That is one of the stupidest things ever said on this forum. Rasho IS A GUARENTEE TO START. And Mo is a role player? Yeah? Alright man. Ill take your word on that one if you think getting 17 points and 5 rpg, + good D and leadership AS THE THIRD OPTION, is just pure role player status. Mo has a shot at 20 ppg, so you can stop delivering the BS here ASAP. No vet leadership, eh? So getting those numbers as the 3rd option, being the clear veteran leader on the team, playing in every game, and not once complaining is not showing any leadership? Haha, this debate reminds me of a fight between a heavyweight boxer and a 90 year old grandma. Lmao.The Suns will probably have just as bad defense as us last year. They are still a top team. The Zards also have sh*t defense. Defense doesn't matter really, as long as you have a really efficient offense. We will be alot better at D next year, anyway because Chris Bosh and Joey Graham are also improving at that area. I was using that as an explanation that you dont have to have great defense to win games. We also have a top-notch offense, seeing as the Raps were 2nd in the League in ppg averages next to the Suns.My ending point is that they are a playoff contender, and they will be in the hunt. I dont care what others think, honestly because they are just using our past to say that we suck.</div>1. Will you read all of my post for once? At the bottom I said the Raptors did improve it, just not enough to actually make it good or even mediocre at that. Also seriously you making all these newly aquired players out to be so much better than they are. Other than Fred Jones and TJ Ford you guys basically got players that are either old and declining or international players who we have yet to see play one game in the NBA. Filled the two hole? Correct me if I'm wrong but Mo Pete will be playing SF right? That basically leaves two players at SG and that is Fred Jones who is more of a bench player and Anthony Parker who hasn't played in this league since 2000. He was never that great back then and now he's 6 years older and 31. Looks like you guys still have problems there. As for Rasho, if you guys also got Humphries, Garbajosa, and Bargnani who can play C plus Bosh then it doesn't seem liek you guys still had a hole a C.2. Once again why the hell do you compare the Raptors to the Suns and Wizards? Both offenses are easily better than the Raptors, they have real veteran leadership not two bench warmers who won't get loads of playing time and a role player, and they have better head coaches. It's a tupid comparasin. Both teams also have way more experience than your raptors. 3. What's wrong with having loads of players at PF/C? I don't know maybe that it just means you guys have a huge logjame there and all these players that you are saying will have a big effect on the team will be hardly getting any playing time. Your assuming all these big men you guys have will get plenty of chances to help out but obviously that can't be the casewith so many players, so some of these guys you are expecting to make a difference will probably be on the IR. 4. By no name players I meant players that haven't done hardly anything in this league in the past few seasons. 5. Ummm yeah I'm pretty sure Parker is on the decline. He never was anything good in the NBA from '97-'00 and now he's only 6 years older and 31 the age where people start to decline. So yeah you could say that. All these players are short term solutions? Since when do short term solution players make a team playoff material? I would love to be enlightened on that one. Once again yes a lot fo these big man they got won't be getting huge PT. They have a ton of big man and you can't expect everyone to get a lot. Ok if Parker starts then that isn't exactly impressive. Do you think it's impressive to start a player like Parker who never had success in this league when he was young and is now just older and not used to the NBA anymore? OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS!! YOU ARE LIKE SO RIGHT. HOW COULD I NOT KNOW THAT RASHO WOULD START FOR YOU GUYS. THAT IS A PURE EMBARRASEMENT. I MEAN A PLAYER LIKE RASHO HAS TO ALWAYS BE A START HUH! :HAHAHA: Dude just shutup. You make Rasho sound like an all star C. They have a lot of big man so it isn't exactly obvious. Also you lost all respect from me for one statement already atleast 3 times so I don't really give a F*ck if you say that. Ummm yeah Mo Pete is a role player. I'm pretty sure you can count a 2nd option a role player lol. Also I'm sorry but they do not have much veteran leadership. The Suns and Wizards leaders are both experienced Vets. Chris Bosh isn't. If you want to count role players and 2n options then the Suns also have Shawn Marion, Kurt Thomas, Raja Bell, etc. The Wizards also have Antawn Jamison, Brendon Haywood, and Antonio Daniels. I'm not going to even bother responding that that 90 year old grandma comment lol because you are really making that statement because I said Rasho won't start. I still am laughing on how big of a deal you made of that.6. DUDE! STOP COMPARING THE RAPTORS OFFENSE TO THE SUNS AND WIZARDS! Both teams have actual real veteran leadership, more experience, and better head coaches. The Raptors are not up there with either team on offense yet. Equal defense to the Suns and Wizards? The Wizards gave up 4 less ppg than you last season and the Suns gave up two less but also averaged 7 ppg more than the Raptors. More proof that your giving a horrible comparasin.7. Think whatever yu think because obviously you won't change your mind. I just can't wait for your team to once again be back in that lottery.
The Chicago Bulls are not overrated.The Chicago Bulls are not overrated but are hyped because of their great offseason. I am a Chicago Bulls fan but do not believe the Chicago Bulls will win the NBA championship because we don't have alot of experience on our roster and it will take another year before the chemistry develops into a championship team. Fans just have high expectations because of arrival of Ben Wallace. Ben Wallace's offense may not be great but defense wins championships and Ben Wallace can turn a team from a solid playoff team to a great team. I'm not saying the Chicago Bulls are the best team in the league or even in the East. I think that we're one of the top teams in the East and expect us to finish in second or third place in the Eastern Conference.
Hmmm...Overrated:Chicago Bulls- To me they will be very good, but they will NOT be a championship or top 3 team until they sort out the offensive game. Kirk, Luol and Ben Gordon are all good scorers, but the team lacks a scorer who can consistently get them 20PPG or so a night and take over if they are in an offensive slump. But this team is really fantastic, very gritty and will outhustle their opponents for wins (see: Miami series where they pushed them as far as Pistons and Dallas did in a 7 game series). Cleveland Cavaliers- Yes, they got David Wesley. Yes, they still got LeBron. But unless Hughes can be the scoring threat he was in Washington, unless Z and Gooden show up in playoffs, unless LeBron can up his defense and clutch ability....I'm just not buying this team to do any major damage. They will be a conference semi's team again, over 50 wins most likely, but only if all the variables I listed become realities, there is no reason to believe this will be a top 5 or so team like people think they will be.New Orleans Hornets- Yes, they have the best young PG in the league, they got Peja, and they still are very deep in the PF position. But they still are missing a go-to scoring guy, and still just a few parts away from being somewhat of a contender. I was also not a fan of getting rid of 2 great, athletic, off the bench player in JR Smith and Kirk Snyder.Underrated:Miami Heat- People are already writing them off, despite surprising almost everyone and winning the championship last year. They still have the group from last year, still got arguably the best center and arguably the best player in the game right now. They still have tons of veterans that know how to win in big games, and there is no reason to write them off just yet. And like I learned awhile back, when you have DWade, anything is possible.Houston Rockets- People are very quick to forget they were a 5 seed 2 seasons ago, and that was with a very slow start. They now have amazing depth at guard position, improved and matured Yao, and somewhat of a 3rd option in Shane Battier. They have their core players still, but have added some new, young pieces that have shown great promise- Rafer Alston, Kirk Snyder, Luther Head, John Lucas III, and others. And as people saw through February last year, as long as T-Mac/Yao are playing together and at least one of them is playing on full strength, they are fantastic. When both are halthy, along with the new and old pieces, they have a fantastic team.Phoenix Suns- Like the Heat, they still have their core players from last year that went to 6 games in the WCF, but now they will have Amare Stoudemire. People forget just how good this kid is. He was averaging 26/9 on 55% shooting in 04-05, outplayed TD in WCF, and was just a whirlwind of talent. Yes, he had the knee injury that has kept him out for over a year, but he showed some signs of coming back 6 months ago in the NBA for a few games, he played really well in the summer league, he played well in USA practice/scrimmage, and everyone says his knee is very healthy and the only thing he is lacking is confidence. That will come with probably a few weeks of games, but when that comes back.....you are looking at the 06=07 NBA champions.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Sep 13 2006, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Phoenix Suns- Like the Heat, they still have their core players from last year that went to 6 games in the WCF, but now they will have Amare Stoudemire. People forget just how good this kid is. He was averaging 26/9 on 55% shooting in 04-05, outplayed TD in WCF, and was just a whirlwind of talent. Yes, he had the knee injury that has kept him out for over a year, but he showed some signs of coming back 6 months ago in the NBA for a few games, he played really well in the summer league, he played well in USA practice/scrimmage, and everyone says his knee is very healthy and the only thing he is lacking is confidence. That will come with probably a few weeks of games, but when that comes back.....you are looking at the 06=07 NBA champions.</div>couldn't agree more. :beerchug:wait a second. nitro, did we .. just.. agree on something?
