i read an article in the miami herald that udonis haaslem is ggoing to toronto along with dorell and wesley for Marshall, Jalen and a future first round draft pick
I really hope this trade doesn't go down... for real I hope we give up EJ instead of Haslem and Wright. Haslem and Wright are both young and amazing potetntial... Haslem is already doing great. If we trade them, the Heat organization will pay for it when those 2 explode in Toronto.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dunkzilla20:</div><div class="quote_post">i read an article in the miami herald that udonis haaslem is ggoing to toronto along with dorell and wesley for Marshall, Jalen and a future first round draft pick</div> Where in the Herald? Can you post a link.
I'll be pissed if this trade happens. Haslem gave us nothing but 110% effort and have been doing the dirty job. If I was an NBA coach, I would love to have a guy like that. This trade is a no no
first of all i just want to say as a hornets fan...yes i know im saying that on a public board...zo didnt put miami on the map for the first 12 years of his carreer so get your facts straight..secondly zo doesnt even know if hes gonna make it all year.20 games in and hes allready hit the dl cause his body isnt holding up so before you guys go throwing shaq and zo as the number 1 center combo in the league i urge you to rethink this,by the way the team zo did put on the map the first 8 years of his carreer was charlotte hornets. secondly even if this deal gets done ...donyell cant even start in toronto how do you think hes gonna just come in and steal the job? thirdly rose started his carreer as a point guard and made the transition to the 2 guard..you really think the selfishness he has gained with having to be the scorer at the 2 spot is gonna allow him to be unselfish again and become a 4rth or 5th option?this is a bad trade for miami.they have the peices in place now that they need to make a title run and i for one think they will despite my allmost irrefudable hate for shaq.
bye the way if you think this deal is gonna get done at all for the players you mentioned your dead wrong..that would mean in context the raptors traded carter marshall and rose for erik williams aaron williams haslem dorell and wesley....hahahahhaa i dont think so.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dunkzilla20:</div><div class="quote_post">i read an article in the miami herald that udonis haaslem is ggoing to toronto along with dorell and wesley for Marshall, Jalen and a future first round draft pick</div> Don't worry guys this guy is a Raptor fan, he is just dreaming.
raptor fan? hahaha i hope your not saying im a raptor fan cause i may be alot of things but a raptor fan im not.im a die hard hornets fan and you know thats true without even knowing me because if i wasnt i guarentee i wouldnt be saying it on a public board with how they are playing.anyways we all know this trade would mean toronto is giving up too much and they allready got shafted in the carter deal they arent gonna continue getting shafted noone in their right mind would think this is a good deal raptor fan or heat fan..anyone with common sense that is.
It gonna be: Heat send- Eddie Jones Udonis Haslem and 1or2 of the three (Dorell Wright, Wesley Person, Malik Allen) Raptors send- Alonzo Mourning Donyell Marshall Jalen Rose and maybe a First draft pick. It will be the deal who steps up the Heat to a lately level in the Playoff... The Raps... less.
you honestly think that losing haslem and jones and getting rose and marshall is gonna get you to the playoffs?hahahahaha heat wont even make the playoffs without haslem and jones sorry boys...zo may not even play the rest of the season he has said his body broke down too quickly he may not be able to go...and haslem is a beast..sure jones is struggling but anyone who watched the game saturday against the lakers knows jones can still ball and is more than twice the player rose is.
as i said in the raps forum about the trade espn is reporting...i really just dont see it going down raps dont want, EJ, person or malik. if the deal includes both wright and haslem i see it happening, but the espn deal doesnt do anything for the raps down the road which is clearly what babcock's vision is. raps are obviously in rebuild mode...and we arent about to take on some aging players and another horrible contract. but for you guys the trade is awesome...donyell is terrific on the boards and gives another 3pt threat to stretch out the defense. his game would really compliment shaq's and vice versa. plus with wade sliding over to the 2-spot which imo he's clearly suited at...you guys become legit title contenders.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting utaan:</div><div class="quote_post"> secondly even if this deal gets done ...donyell cant even start in toronto how do you think hes gonna just come in and steal the job? </div> wow, you shouldn't be talking if you don't know what your talking about. The reason Donyell doesn't start is because our starting PF is Chris Bosh. If we didn't have a great young player with a lot of potential on the Raptors then Yell would start no prob. I really hope this trade doesn't go down. I admit Haslem is a great hustle player, however we already have a budding Power Forward in Bosh. Bosh also has more potential at the scoring end, and often times pulls double teams. I haven't seen Dorrell this year, and I think Jalen is more talented than Eddie Jones. Jalen has stepped it up, and can create his own shot. Eddie seems to struggle to make open threes. So from a Raptors standpoint, I believe we have nothing to gain. However for the heat, I think they move up the ranks with San Antonio. PG: Jones / Dooling SG: Wade / Does he really need a backup? SF: Rose** btw, Rose is much more accustomed and is built for the 3 than EJ PF: Donyell / Laettner C: Shaq / Zo
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting utaan:</div><div class="quote_post"> secondly even if this deal gets done ...donyell cant even start in toronto how do you think hes gonna just come in and steal the job?</div> you dont start anyone besides, probably superstars, before you start Bosh who has the potential to be as good, or better the KG, and if you doubt it compare the numbers
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting utaan:</div><div class="quote_post">hahaha i hope your not saying im a raptor fan cause i may be alot of things but a raptor fan im not.im a die hard hornets fan and you know thats true without even knowing me because if i wasnt i guarentee i wouldnt be saying it on a public board with how they are playing.anyways we all know this trade would mean toronto is giving up too much and they allready got shafted in the carter deal they arent gonna continue getting shafted noone in their right mind would think this is a good deal raptor fan or heat fan..anyone with common sense that is.</div> LOL you really are stupid I WAS IMPILYING TO SOME GUY NAMED DUNKZILLA20, DID YOU SEE THE QUOTES? NO YOU DID NOT. Also NO Heat fan here wants this trade to happen. Only Raptor fans say they want this to happen because it GIVES THEM A GREAT potential in Udonis Haslem and it gives us crappy contracts.
first of all derfz LOL what a damn name anyways your a retard i can name several pf's in the league way way better than bosh...lets start with dirk oh wait did you forget about him?oh wait what about both amare stoudamire and now sinse hes playing center shawn marion.,.they are both better...uhh chris webber,jermaine o'neal,tim duncan,lamar odom,emeka okafor,k-mart,zach randolph,rasheed wallace,carlos boozer,andre kirilenko,elton brand,paul gasol uhhh shall i keep going retard,i can name more im sure..secondly skiptomylue i really wish you guys would think of something better for your names but if you cant be that creative then whatever...but you talk like your a true raptor fan and if you were you would know that the raptors have nothing at the center position and that they actually started bosh there at the beginning of the year so if bosh was as good as you all say he is and yell is a awsome pf like you all say then whats the problem?the problem is that arouja LOL another great name is worse than both of them and he still starts the center position because bosh cant handle it.so next time you go running your mouth and telling me that i dont know what im talking about why dont you stop and think of what an ass im about to make you look like when i tell you more about your shitty team than you can tell me.thanks for askin have a nice day
Alright, let's get back on to subject somewhat...this is startting to turn into a small war... haha. We all know Bosh is a great player, and big men take longer to develop. Bosh will be a great player in the future, not sure if as good as KG but he will be good. There's no arguing there. I think Marshall could come in and take the starting job in Miami. The reason he's not starting in Toronto is because Bosh is the future and they want him to develop fast. Plus Bosh gives Toronto more of an inside presence than Marshall does. I feel we could benefit from this trade, but I dont' like giving up Wright and Haslem at all... 2 budding stars.
