Moving up for Clingan?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by AquaXI, Jun 3, 2024.

  1. Samuel

    Samuel James “Hollywood” Robinson

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    1,778
    Likes Received:
    1,683
    Trophy Points:
    113
    With the draft still a couple of weeks out i'm assuming most of the intel out there is Houston and Atlanta trying to create as much of a market as possible for their picks. Clingan seems like a hype-able type of prospect who could attract the most interest across a variety of teams.
     
  2. Graduate32

    Graduate32 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2018
    Messages:
    443
    Likes Received:
    682
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Sengun
    Yeah, I actually don't envy Houston's dilemma at all. I understand that they may like Sengun, but who in the world do you pair him with in the front court? I understand that they may want some additional rim protection (in the form of Clingan), but does that mean you are asking Sengun to play the 4 and stay with guys on the perimeter? If making the Minnesota comparison, Sengun is a far cry from both Naz Reid and KAT (quicker AND longer). Not to mention the spacing on offense would be a mess.

    Clingan only makes sense if you are moving on from Sengun... which frankly, they perhaps should consider despite his highly productive season.
     
  3. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    56,740
    Likes Received:
    54,717
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    We are think this. I think our thinking on this largely wishful in nature.
     
  4. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2008
    Messages:
    19,081
    Likes Received:
    15,805
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    PDX
    We have veterans. Hou wants to win now.
     
  5. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    39,017
    Likes Received:
    23,217
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    But they can't just absorb salary - who are they trading us?
     
  6. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    39,017
    Likes Received:
    23,217
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    I'm assuming they're trading the pick - just not to us.
     
  7. HoopsFanAZ

    HoopsFanAZ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2022
    Messages:
    734
    Likes Received:
    853
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Arizona
    when it comes to trading the current, veteran Trail Blazers, “winning the trade” is less of an issue than getting what we want. IMHO …
    1. Timeline with youth and players that fit and fit it.
    2. Restructuring team salary by bringing back short term contracts.
    3. Getting high draft picks — even in this draft.

    Houston no longer needs either Steven Adams (SAEC) or Jeff Green (guarantee the T-opt and trade).
    $20.6 million combined … for Simons … add the team-option guaranteed final year of Jae’Sean Tate and it’s over $28 million … Grant.

    Keep Adams for a year. Waive the other 2.
     
    TBpup and Rastapopoulos like this.
  8. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    32,719
    Likes Received:
    41,213
    Trophy Points:
    113
    One can only hope
     
  9. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    39,017
    Likes Received:
    23,217
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    You know who's a very mobile athletic center who could probably work as well with Sengun as anyone? Ayton. Clears up space to play our new star Clingan 48 mpg!
     
  10. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2018
    Messages:
    8,130
    Likes Received:
    7,622
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I hope he goes to some other team at #3.... What a reach.... Bagley/Wiseman 2.0
     
  11. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2018
    Messages:
    8,130
    Likes Received:
    7,622
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What are they reading the pick for, a worse pick? Because any veteran is going to have the same salary matching issue as PDX.
     
  12. Graduate32

    Graduate32 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2018
    Messages:
    443
    Likes Received:
    682
    Trophy Points:
    93
    I'm not necessarily ready to pull the trigger on Clingan either (even at #7), but those are kind of strange comps for him. Regardless of outcome, he is a completely different type of player.
     
    Rastapopoulos likes this.
  13. Ripcity4life77

    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2016
    Messages:
    1,416
    Likes Received:
    1,320
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Here is the thing being a weak / average draft throwing a player like Brog , Williams and maybe Thybulle might be an option IF the receiving teams thinks that that vet PLUS the 7 would make them better. Also the Blazers need to shed some payroll so that type of trade works for them so we should hope someone like Houston etc loves one of these players.
     
  14. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    39,017
    Likes Received:
    23,217
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    Bagley and Wiseman were the opposite of Clingan. Clingan is a BORING pick who will make obvious contributions but never be a star. Bagley and Wiseman were players who were big swings where people said "well, they didn't do much in college but LOOK at the UPSIDE"
     
    Hoopguru likes this.
  15. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    20,301
    Likes Received:
    16,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And they both had quick feet. But lacked the way to play the game upstairs.
     
  16. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    34,328
    Likes Received:
    12,837
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    UPS
    Location:
    V-Town Baby
    I don’t want to draft Dwayne Schintzius
     
  17. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    42,950
    Likes Received:
    30,776
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    singer songwriter
    Location:
    Washington
    What if he grows an awesome mullet?
     
    kjironman1, AquaXI and MickZagger like this.
  18. AmirIcon

    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2008
    Messages:
    6,027
    Likes Received:
    5,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Writer, Director, Actor
    Bill Simmons and Ryen Russillo think Clingan can totally go #1. Everyone can't be crazy I guess. I'm all for acquiring him or #3. Someone interesting will be there. Sarr, Risacher or Clingan. I'd be excited to add any of them.
     
  19. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    34,328
    Likes Received:
    12,837
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    UPS
    Location:
    V-Town Baby
    Thinking he can be and should be are two completely different things
     
  20. AmirIcon

    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2008
    Messages:
    6,027
    Likes Received:
    5,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Writer, Director, Actor
    Not in this scenario. You should give it a watch.
     

Share This Page