I have no idea whether this is true, but even if so...not "accepting that directive" (when pretty much all the data points to homosexuality being an innate thing) is akin to a medical student not "accepting the directive" about evolution being an existing dynamic. Evolution is a key part of developing medicines and fighting disease. Understanding that homosexuality is generally not a choice is a key part of helping a student who's struggling due to being part of a minority that's persecuted to some extent. When the preponderance of evidence supports a "directive" and that "directive" bears directly on the job you're working to get a degree for...you're justifiably going to be in academic hot water. If she doesn't wish to "accept that directive," she shouldn't try for a degree that qualifies her to, among other things, counsel gay students. She can remain firm in her unsubstantiated belief and academics can continue on properly.
And now we're moving into the "Christians = stupid" part of this discussion. I figured it was coming. Just for the sake of wondering, what does anyone hope to accomplish in the course of doing this?
I don't think Christians are any more stupid than any other class/group of people. hehe, grammar proved I was stupid just now.
This thread will once and for all resolve all faith vs. reason issues. At least, that's what I believe, and I'm not going to listen to any arguments to the contrary. barfo
Really? I didn't notice anyone make that claim or imply it. I certainly don't think Christians, as a group, are stupid. No more so than any other large sample of humans.
My purpose was for anyone with the belief that homosexuality was a choice to reconsider that stance. There may be people that find both sexes attractive, but I know that I have never thought of a man that way and most of the homosexuals I have known feel the same way about the opposite sex. Most had relations with the opposite sex in order to feel a part of society, had serious issues, and then accepted who they were. Also, I do not see where a distinction was made where one side said it was a choice and the other said it was a mental illness. It may have been compared to a mental illness, but no one was saying that it was wrong or needed to be cured. If 98% of the population was homosexual and only 2% were heterosexual, I would hope that a cousellor was trained in heterosexual studies.
You being saved by Christ does not validate every interpretation of the Bible though. I am sure there are millions that feel the same way about their religion. Hopefully you guys never kill each other, both thinking you are doing the Lord's work.
How do you explain the fact that I'm still alive, then? Is it (a) a miracle, or (b) the Lord works in mysterious ways? Personally, I go with (c) that which does not kill you makes you stronger. barfo
Or at least, God does not sap my strength. Does he then strengthen my sap? I don't think that's so clear (translucent, but not transparent, and somewhat sticky). It does seem like God should have killed me by now, if S/He was going to. barfo
Please let it did the way Bea Arther died, peacefully and calmly.... and not the way Ted Williams died. Frozen, with a severed head ready to be revived later on.
Your two recent accounts (posts) are some of the most heart-wrenching, brutally honest and thought-provoking pieces I've ever read in here. All that said, I truly hope you find your way in life - regardless of the path(s) you end up taking. Hope springs eternal, though. Thanks, ABM
We all take different journeys, barfo. I have no idea the one you've taken, or are taking. I simply related that the one I was on had been leading to destruction
TSE, I hope you take supposed well wishes like this and be strong enough not to tell the person to shove it up their ass.
