I'm not deflecting. I honestly have no idea what point you were trying to make. I will review the thread and see if I can figure it out. barfo
4 years? That was 4 years (by your bad math) of multiple Russiagate type investigations. Not even a year per. The Lewinsky thing probably took just a few months from start to published report. There was no NSA spying program back then. Surely all Mueller or the FBI has to do is ask the NSA for the recording of a Trump operative colluding with Russians. Even before they monitored all our citizens' calls and emails and social media posts, they were monitoring the Russians for those things. Not a peep from any of those. Given how the swamp dwellers love to leak, it would have been on CNN or in the WaPost or NYTimes a year ago. What else, exactly, could Mueller be trying to discover?
??? The NSA was formed in 1952, and it's mission right from the get-go was spying. Strangely, Bob Mueller doesn't call me up and discuss his intentions. My guess, though, based on what I've read, is that there will be more money laundering charges. There will be obstruction of justice charges. And there may or may not be some sort of 'collusion' related charges. It doesn't matter, though, does it? You'll just pretend whatever charges are brought are false, just like you are now. barfo
The NSA hasn't been spying on US citizens en masse all along. Just since ~2001 (which is after Starr). I don't claim Mueller's charges are somehow "false." I think they might be beyond his mandate (Manafort is suing him over that), and that they have nothing at all to do with any collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian hackers to hack or release any hacked materials. I repeat that the NSA has EVERYTHING on everyone. Every call, every email, every tweet or facebook post. Mueller, the Obama administration, congress, and swamp dwellers (deep state) have access to it all. Digging through it for a year and haven't found squat. https://www.aclu.org/other/nsa-spying-americans-illegal NSA SPYING ON AMERICANS IS ILLEGAL (but it is ok with barfo!)
Are you sure you to bring up the "lots of alleged crimes from your kind, but as of months turn into years, nada" defense, considering how your kind constantly brings up Benghazi and emails?
From my five minutes of research that does not appear to be true: So while there is some utility in the metadata, it is not likely the NSA has your emails and phone calls from a year ago. barfo
Benghazi is most definitely a mark on the Obama Administration and Clinton as Secy of State. The investigation found that she was illegally running her own server, which the Administration knew about and otherwise would have covered up.
Wow. You really have no clue what the NSA has. This is the NSA's Utah data center. Buildings filled with servers and hard drives to retain all the data you think they don't have. Inside looks like this for 99% of the space: This is just one of their data centers, too. They have many around the world. http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2016/10/07/intercept-theres-nsa-data-center-uk The Intercept: There’s an NSA Data Center in the UK Snowden docs reveal details about US spies’ satellite surveillance operation in North Yorkshire.
What is this image? Rack mounted hard drives I suppose. Well, I wonder how many years back they can go and still retrieve data? Do they really have a plan to keep that data retrievable? Sort of difficult to believe the Government can keep a crew on their toes, do what is necessary to actually maintain access to the data they have stored. Data from last year? Sure. Data from 10 years ago? Maybe. Data from 20 years ago? Very suspect. But then, How long do they need it? What the hell is their plan?
They have many options for bulk storage. With the availability of 10TB and 14TB hard drives, they can fit a lot of raw data in small places. They can convert audio (phone calls) to text, which is much smaller. They can search for keywords, like "Russia" in all the files that relate to any particular Trump associate. https://nsa.gov1.info/utah-data-center/ Data Storage Capacity In February 2012, Utah Governor Gary R. Herbert revealed that the Utah Data Center would be the "first facility in the world expected to gather and house a yottabyte". Since then, conflicting media reports have also estimated our storage capacity in terms of zettabytes and exabytes. While the actual capacity is classified for NATIONAL SECURITY REASONS, we can say this: The Utah Data Center was built with future expansion in mind and the ultimate capacity will definitely be "alottabytes"! The steady rise in available computer power and the development of novel computer platforms will enable us to easily turn the huge volume of incoming data into an asset to be exploited, for the good of the nation. https://nsa.gov1.info/data/index.html
The Utah data center was 100% complete on 8/31/2014. Way earlier than the 2016 campaign. Certainly gathered all the information on Trump and his associates, as well as everyone else in the country (and maybe worldwide).
http://reason.com/reasontv/2016/01/19/nsa-utah-data-center-spying-snowden-spy The NSA Wouldn't Let Us in This Building (But We Found Out What's Inside) Large rooms with racks of computer servers. If you think the National Security Agency (NSA) isn't interested in your information, you should take a road trip out to see the massive, nondescript, concrete buildings they operate in the sleepy town of Bluffdale, Utah. Called the Utah or NSA Data Center, it may be one of the best representations for what the NSA considers to be its mission for the future: bulk online data collection. Although the NSA turned down our request to tour the facility with our cameras, we were able to talk to Pete Ashdown of the ISP provider XMission, who toured the facility as it was being built in 2012. "The NSA Data Center is essentially server space, where they have large rooms with racks of servers," says Ashdown, who toured the buildings as a part of Utah Data Center Consortium, a group of public and private stakeholders interested in Utah's data center industry. At first Ashdown was excited to see what the NSA was building, but found out they were pretty tight lipped about details. "The questions they would answer were very banal. But, we were able to calculate the capacity by counting the generators. Each of those generators was a two megawatt generator and they had over thirty of them," said Ashdown. "I think a megawatt can service 1,000 homes." When Ashdown left the facility, he began to digest what he saw recalling what former AT&T engineer and NSA whistleblower Mark Klein revealed in 2004: An NSA intercept room at the AT&T headquarters in the San Francisco Bay area. "All the data flowing through AT&T at the time was going in and nobody knew what was going on inside," said Ashdown, who also says he was told the Utah Data Center is not connected to the internet all all. "I started to realize that it is just a data collection point. That they are collecting and storing as much data off the internet and telephone networks that they can. And they think that if you ask for a warrant later to look at the data that's okay," said Ashdown.
Pretty genius. Store everything without cause and then go back and find it if we get a warrant. Imagine the cops go to every house each month, search it but somehow don't actually look at the bad things they find. Then six months later they get a tip that Denny Crane had drugs in his house in March. Get warrant and go check your March search contents. Genius I tell you. Or completely and totally unconstitutional but whatever. The FBI the libs love so much told us not to worry.
The site I quoted is a parody site, but the information is accurate. Links to documents do open from government URLs, etc.
