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Dude. I specifically challenged the statement that you can’t get ID without a DL. That is patently false. If you want to bring up ancillary arguments go ahead. But you’re right, I have no interest in discussing anything political with anyone on here. It is unproductive in my opinion.

 

When I worked at Boeing I once worked with this guy who was a minister on the side. Really nice guy and although very Conservative because he could see how I cared for the less fortunate. Anyhow, one day he says to me that Jesus didn't say to turn the other cheek to everyone just fellow Christians.

 

I don't like anyone telling me who I cannot vote for who is otherwise qualified. If I can vote, then I can vote for anyone I want within reason and no one in my past has a right to limit that right.

 

Personally, I don't like a term limit for the President. If he's ever convicted of a felony or gets mentally ill, okay, but otherwise I should get to choose. Also, Sly is right, if you want someone else run a better opponent.

 

No you said the first item I quoted above which is not true.

 

So from what I'm gathering, There is no law prohibiting someone form getting an ID with a suspended license. But if your license is suspended because you have a warrant, then you are unable to get an ID. I see no issue with that. If you have a warrant out for your arrest it is because you have been in violation of a court request or order, thus breaking the law. A that point, the individual has given up their voting rights by not following the procedure. Just like felons who cant vote.

I still see nothing about not being able to get an ID if a license has been suspended but the individual is a legal and is simply paying dues for a wrong. Only those with warrants.

I do like the first line saying warrants for your arrest can happen for a variety of reasons, and the first one given is admin mistakes. Not due procedure of being in violation of something.

That's petty funny and misleading, leaving it seem as though most warrants are issued in error.

Anyhow. Nothing stating a person cant get an ID to vote with a suspended license.

 

We didn't get rid of poll taxes, we just reinvented them.

 

Not paying a fine is a violation of a court order and pushes status into criminal. Most all courts offer an individual to pay the fine with time served if they cant afford it. So to not get a fine paid one way or another is evading the law. I agree that someone evading the law should not be allowed to vote until they are in good standing with the law.

So unpaid fines are now taxes?


Shit, we may as well let all nonviolent criminals get away with anything. The law is the law. IF you have a fine that isn't paid you are in violation of a court order. It isnt a tax...

Is it me or is common sense trying to be reinvented here?

 

Who said it was a jailable offense? I know I didn't, so not sure of the point yo are trying to make.

I said the guilty party has the OPTION to serve time to pay the fine. Until the violation is cleared, they are still in violation of a court order.

I should ask though, are we discussing civil court or criminal? If a court orders a defendant to pay a plaintiff or vice versa over a private dispute, that's different than a court issuing a fine for the violation of a law. Like speeding.

If you violate the law, clear your shit up. Period. You cant vote until you do. Seems fair to me.

This is not fair if it is a civil court ruling.

All my opinons of course.

 

Okay, so states issue warrants for unpaid civil fines?

States will not issue an ID for an unpaid civil fine?


I don't think i'm conflating anything, I dont think you clarified.

So who gets their drivers license suspended or gets a warrant out for an unpaid non criminal court fine?

I did not see this clarified in anything you posts and the mention of warrant suggests fines are for unpaid criminal rulings. NOT civil non criminal.

Can you please point out where it specifies someone not paying a legal ruling fine on a car accident insurance claim, can have a warrant issued and drivers license suspended for not paying? Its my understanding that an individual can then only sue the person who owes the civil ruling to go after assets?

 

you are kinda all over the map with this....

 

But in your copied links none of that say anything about civil suits. What did I miss? A traffic infraction is a violation of law. Not someone suing another person and winning over the neighbors dog pissing on the other niehgbors flowerbeds and killing the garden.

So you broke the law and dont want to pay the fine and are cry about not being able to get an ID to vote might be talking abotu civil suits, not traffic violatons(which is a law break) that dontr get fined and turn criminal. Because your stance seems so off to me, I had to clarify and make sure you werent discussing a cicvil suit betwene two private parties.


You break the law ythe court deems a punishment. You dont adhere to the punishmnet, you get a warrant and serfve time and cant get an Id or vote until you correct the violation.

Seems fair to me.


Anything less is soft and aiding to our pussification. People need to be held more accountable for thier actions.

 

I understand fines aren't taxes. It was an offhand comment.
If a poor person gets a speeding ticket they can't afford, that shouldn't be an avenue to an inability to vote, in opinion.