Murphy to Seattle?

<div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It doesn't make much sense that Seattle would trade either Lewis or Wilcox for Murphy. We'd probably have to move Murph for a couple of smaller contracts, if we could get Earl Watson and some scrubs with smal, short term contracts that would be a success IMO.</div>

So maybe something like Murphy/Zarko/John Starks(I mean McLeod) for Danny Fortson and Earl Watson?

I wouldn't mind having Earl as a back up PG nor having Fortson's rebounding and expiring contract on the Warriors. Earl would become much more important considering Monta being prone to injury.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Clif25 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So maybe something like Murphy/Zarko/John Starks(I mean McLeod) for Danny Fortson and Earl Watson?

I wouldn't mind having Earl as a back up PG nor having Fortson's rebounding and expiring contract on the Warriors. Earl would become much more important considering Monta being prone to injury.</div>

Watson would be a great back-up, and he plays defense also. I'd totally trade Murphy and whatever for Watson.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's exactly what I was thinking, but I don't know if Seattle would do it. Why would they need Murphy with Wilcox and Collison at PF and Swift, Petro, and Sene at C? If I were Mullin I would see if any teams are interested in Murphy because at this point he'd be glad to dump Murphy for nothing and if any teams have interest they would probably do a deal to get Murphy for basically nothing. Chicago was reportedly interested, I'd try to get PJ Brown (expiring contract and very servicable big) and/or Duhon who is a very solid backup PG.</div>

Yeah, I was assuming that the Sonics had some interest in Murphy from reading this thread's original post. Maybe they don't have big enough of an interest to pull a deal off with Murphy's contract and current health status.

The Nets might be another franchise interested in Murphy though. They are looking for another big.

 

<div class="quote_poster">HiRez Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Collison is Poison Pill and Wilcox is under Base Year Compensation rules (like Dun). It's going to be almost impossible to work a trade with Seattle involving Murphy for Wilcox and/or Collison because making the salaries fit under the rules is tricky at best. At this point I'm willing to move Murph for some major cap relief, but his trade value appears to be at an all-time low and few other teams will want to take on the same contract we are very obviously desperate to rid ourselves of. Murphy straight up for Lewis is a trade that works though.</div>

Sorry HiRez. Was so determined to trade Murphy that I missed your post. Hard to see Seattle taking Murphy if they can't get rid of one of their overpaid PFs. Wouldn't mind getting Watson and Wilcox, but the BYC makes it very difficult. We'd have to get a third team with cap space involved and give them something to help broker the deal.

 

<div class="quote_poster">CohanHater Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Excuse my ignorance, but what does prolly mean? I've seen it on the board a few times, but I don't get it.</div>

It's message board-lish

 

Murphy for Watson makes no sense,we don't need that much budget tied up in a guy who becomes the #3 PG. Murphy is still a major asset as PF/C,even if Nellie is still leaning to small. We recently got exposed-big time - by East teams because Biedrens was alone and tired inside and Nellie was under-using Foyle/Diogu. A 15 rebound difference is spotting the opponent way too much advantage.

If Nellie fails to remodel Murphy into the asset he can be-that I wasnt him to be-at that point we think trade and might settle for a low talent salary dump package. Now? it would be folly. We'd be selling "damaged goods" with much of the damage based on Murphy being shuffled in and out of experimental roles when semi-healthy. If we give him-at half price,to a team in the West-we may find they do the minor patch-ups to his role + style and his size-shooting-rebounding-and new passing skills makes them far better. I really would fear us sending him to Houston or Memphis for that reason. Murph alongside another big who scores,rebounds would be real trouble for us for years.

 

<div class="quote_poster">REREM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Murphy for Watson makes no sense,we don't need that much budget tied up in a guy who becomes the #3 PG. Murphy is still a major asset as PF/C,even if Nellie is still leaning to small. We recently got exposed-big time - by East teams because Biedrens was alone and tired inside and Nellie was under-using Foyle/Diogu. A 15 rebound difference is spotting the opponent way too much advantage.

If Nellie fails to remodel Murphy into the asset he can be-that I wasnt him to be-at that point we think trade and might settle for a low talent salary dump package. Now? it would be folly. We'd be selling "damaged goods" with much of the damage based on Murphy being shuffled in and out of experimental roles when semi-healthy. If we give him-at half price,to a team in the West-we may find they do the minor patch-ups to his role + style and his size-shooting-rebounding-and new passing skills makes them far better. I really would fear us sending him to Houston or Memphis for that reason. Murph alongside another big who scores,rebounds would be real trouble for us for years.</div>

I agree REREM, I still subscribe to the adage that you "never trade bigs for smalls." There are exceptions of course. I'd trade Murph for AI. But not for Watson. If we trade Murph, we need to get a back-up center or PF. I mean, Barnes is great but he's no PF. Nellie won't be able to start him against Duncan, Nowitzki, or Elton Brand. And Ike is just coming back. Although Murph has given no production, he's still a PF, and we need to get a big in return if we trade him.

And it would be ideal to do it when his value is high. As much as I'd consider moving JRich or Muprhy with the way their injuries/play style seems to be shaping up, now is not the time to do it.

There was a time when a JRich for Ray Allen trade was a legit table topic. Right now it's laughable, so we need to wait until that type of talk is believable again.

Murphy for Randolph! Remember those talks?

Now we're talking Murphy for Watson, lol.

 

I don't mean to toot my own horn (Ok, maybe I do) But I've been pressing the Murphy is deadweight tune for awhile now. Also, I was for moving JRich and everyone screamed idiot. The reason trading JRich was an option before is because the 2 is the easiest replaceable position on the court. I thought that moving the 2 of them together was extremely doable, because JRich's contract wasn't half bad with how much he was improving, now Mullin's hands are tied moving into the all-star break and trade deadline. He should've made the moves in the offseason.

Don't get me wrong, I love watching JRich... he's one of my favorite Warriors. i love his heart. I loved watching him and Gilbert pounding their chests in the rookie sophomore game, and seeing him progress every year, but it seems as though we had an opportunity to capitalize on inflated value, and I'm for jumping all over it. Looks like that window has closed.

 

<div class="quote_poster">CohanHater Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">but it seems as though we had an opportunity to capitalize on inflated value, and I'm for jumping all over it. Looks like that window has closed.</div>

Thank god that window is closed, cause I don't want to trade JRich