Moiso could actually help Toronto if they used him! I dont see why the sit him....as for Murray and Anderson getting swapped its not a great deal but it make sense....Murray probablly wouldn't see that much time in NY....but the trade would save the Knick a lot of money!
what the hell is wrong with you people? cant you read? moiso was given a chance, the raptors tried to use them, he made too many mistakes, costly turnovers, bad D, lazy work ethic...you suggest the raptors PLAY someone like that? i guess you know something that the professional coaching staff of the raptors doesnt. what idiots they are, they really should listen to a couple of the members of this board
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">what the hell is wrong with you people? cant you read? moiso was given a chance, the raptors tried to use them, he made too many mistakes, costly turnovers, bad D, lazy work ethic...you suggest the raptors PLAY someone like that? i guess you know something that the professional coaching staff of the raptors doesnt. what idiots they are, they really should listen to a couple of the members of this board</div> Whoa there, take a deep breath there soldier. Just give Moiso time, he may come around, he may not...you don't panic once something doesn't work. Its only the halfway point in the season and we are on the hook for his salary for awhile, so time is the only thing the Raps can afford. I consider Moiso like a stock....you can't just give up on it after it dips down, you wait until you know its not gonna gain momentum and then sell it off...and we are not at that point...yet
I think Moiso might just be what the Raps need. Remeber when he started against Miami when AD and JYD were traded? I think he tallied 8 points and 10 rebounds. Now, I know that those numbers don't deserve to start but it sure is enough to at least have a place in the rotation. All in all, I hate Kevin O'neill.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting franchise3:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Moiso might just be what the Raps need. Remeber when he started against Miami when AD and JYD were traded? I think he tallied 8 points and 10 rebounds. Now, I know that those numbers don't deserve to start but it sure is enough to at least have a place in the rotation. All in all, I hate Kevin O'neill.</div> actually, it was 6 pts. 8 rbs. and 4 turnovers. he barely touched the ball, and still managed to turn it over 4 times. kevin o'neill granted has a short bench rotation, but hes brought the one thing we've always needed, defense
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">what the hell is wrong with you people? cant you read? moiso was given a chance, the raptors tried to use them, he made too many mistakes, costly turnovers, bad D, lazy work ethic...you suggest the raptors PLAY someone like that? i guess you know something that the professional coaching staff of the raptors doesnt. what idiots they are, they really should listen to a couple of the members of this board</div> I guess coaches never make mistakes? Why are you trying so hard to believe that Moiso has no talent at all when he could quite easily be the solution to Toronto's low post woes? The management never would have picked him up if they didn't like what they'd seen. Of course Moiso would suck whenever you watch him if the only time you've seen him play has been in a system in which he's been either misused or not adjusted to yet. You can't expect all players to develope instantly. I like the way CourtVision put it, that Moiso is like a stock. You've got to let him mature a bit more before you write him off completely. Jerome played excellent low post defense last year. It could easily be that he's in a slump right now.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting starman85:</div><div class="quote_post">I guess coaches never make mistakes? </div> did i say that? all i said is that the coaching staff is in a better position then people on a msg board to judge whether he should be playing or not. i guess your going to argue that too <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Why are you trying so hard to believe that Moiso has no talent at all when he could quite easily be the solution to Toronto's low post woes? The management never would have picked him up if they didn't like what they'd seen. Of course Moiso would suck whenever you watch him if the only time you've seen him play has been in a system in which he's been either misused or not adjusted to yet. You can't expect all players to develope instantly. I like the way CourtVision put it, that Moiso is like a stock. You've got to let him mature a bit more before you write him off completely. Jerome played excellent low post defense last year. It could easily be that he's in a slump right now.</div> im not saying he has no talent, in fact i dont remember saying that once. all im saying is that the time he has been on the court, he's been a liability, costly turnovers and tons of mistakes. when the raptors are struggling the way they are, the last thing we need is someone like that hurting the team on the court. and how is he being misused? hes a defensive player, coach o'neill is a defensive coach....its not like the raps are running perimiter plays for him, we need him for garbage clean up, rebounds, low post d and blocks...thats what hes been used for, so no, hes not being misused and "excellent" low post defense "last year" is a bit of a strech. he had a few good games in the playoffs, he got tons of dnp/cd's last year. im willing to give him a chance too, i can just understand why hes not playing
There's another side to this that people don't realize. We only see the Raps when they are playing on the court. There are so many other things that a coach gets to see that we as spectators don't. Maybe he doesn't listen, maybe he doesn't like KO, maybe he's disruppted other players. I'm NOT saying he has done any of this, but we form our opinions on what we see from the player on the court. Unfortunately that only makes up about 50% of an NBA players commitment.
