My boy hickson

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  1. 1honestfan

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    Back in 2012 Portland could have given Hickson a QO of 4.4 million and they choose not to. Had they done that, this whole issue would have been averted as he would have been under contract and no cap hold. At least that's how I understand it.
     
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    Fair enough. I can't speak on those points as you stated, I wasn't here when you did.
     
  3. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    It's as if somebody knew every opinion I've ever had on any topic...........created a user called 1honestfan ..........and had him come on here and toss around all these crap posts. Bro, this is a joke right? Am I being pinked?
     
  4. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    pinked?
     
  5. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Yes. You are being pinked. Much worse than being punked. :)

    Maybe we all are.
     
  6. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    Look up pink sock on urban dictionary.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Oh my god, that is horrible. Why is doing that to HCP?!?
     
  8. 1honestfan

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    I am sorry that you're being so sensitive.
     
  9. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Hate to burst anyone's bubble, but for everything Hickson gives you, he gives up more to the other team.

    According to 82games.com Hickson's production is:

    Own: 18.0
    Opp: 20.4
    Net -2.4

    His net on court/off court is -7.7

    His Simple Rating is -4.2

    And, he's not a victim of the system he plays in. The other Denver bigs fair better

    Timofey Mozgov:

    Own: 17.8
    Opp: 17.4
    Net +0.4

    His net on court/off court is +6.8

    His Simple Rating is +2.5

    Kenneth Faried:

    Own: 19.8
    Opp: 19.0
    Net +0.8

    His net on court/off court is -0.3

    His Simple Rating is +0.5

    Hickson brings great energy - at one end of the court and pretty much sleep walks at the other end. That's why Mozgov and Faried have better Net Production numbers. At least they try to play defense.

    Would Hickson be a decent back up? Sure, decent but not great. Plus, he didn't seem to have good chemistry with LaMarcus Aldridge. So, I wasn't sorry to see him go. And by letting him walk, it freed up enough cap space to get Robin Lopez. We basically gave up a decent back up 4 and got an excellent starting 5. I'd do it again in a heart beat.

    BNM
     
  10. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I just didn't think it was possible to not agree on ANYTHING with another human being. Just wondering if somebody set up a fake account just to mess with me.
    Reading that bullshit about Crapzano and that washed up hack Jaynes just was the last straw!
     
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    LameR Ha Seung-Jin Approved!

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    Annnnd thread. 1honestfan, any thoughts? Close it up guys, this one's done.
     
  12. GriLtCheeZ

    GriLtCheeZ "Well, I'm not lookin' for trouble."

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    Because they needed to clear space to offer Hibbert.
     
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    I knew there was a nice logical reason.
     
  14. The_Lillard_King

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    I wanted Blazers to sign Hickson, but haven't been disappointed with T-Rob.

    I hear the arguments Blazers didn't have cap room. That summer NO didn't have cap room for Tyreke and made it work.. GS didn't ahve cap space to sign Iggy and they figured a way to get it done. there were other examples of teams making cap space to sign someone. I think good GMs can figure out ways to make it work . . . but good GMs also make smart moves and watching Hickson in Denver, maybe it was smart not to somehow sign Hickson for 5 mil/yr.
     
  15. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Ummm, yeah they made it "work" by GIVING us Robin Lopez. I like our GM's approach better. In this case, it's better to receive than to give.

    BNM
     
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    OK. Point being that other teams didn't have cap space to go after players and they in fact got those players. I don't think saying there was" no cap space" automatically excludes the possibility as seems to be suggested here. If it is worth it to make the cap space to be able to sign Hickson is certainly debatable.
     
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    I have the feeling we will soon be having a similar discussion over Mo. Which is worse: lose him for nothing, or over-pay to keep him?
     
  18. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Like Hickson, it will depend on what else is available at a comparable salary.

    In the summer of 2012 we declined giving Hickson a QO so we could go after Hibbert. Hickson was our Plan B (or maybe Plan C). We resigned him to a 1 year contract when it became obvious we couldn't get anyone else to be our starting center.

    Last summer, we let him walk to free up the cap space to get Robin Lopez.

    I think our management made the right decisions in both cases. I think they'll look around to see what else is available, and if they can't do better than Mo, with their available cap space they'll bring him back. If they can do better, he'll be gone.

    BNM
     
  19. Further

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    I was glad the Blazers didn't sign Hickson again. He seems nice, has tons of energy and rebounds like a monster, but I don't want to have a big, even off the bench that is so completely shitty on defense. A big without D is going to make the whole team worse. Hickson is like a condom with pinhole in it. The girls will like to see you're prepared, but no actual protection will leave you worse off.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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