My guess for Portland's center next year: Al Horford

You are correct. I was looking at the wrong numbers. Noah last year was at 23%, Plums this year at 16%, still a pretty substantial difference. Raw data says he averaged 2 more per game than Plumlee does this year.

 

Crabbe is an RFA, which means we control his destiny. We can wait and see what offers he gets, and then we have some time to match. Crabbe is also perfect as a bench guy. He's not ready to start, but he could slide into that role in a pinch. He has consistently gotten better every year and he's still young (24 years old).

Hendo is a UFA. He can sign with whomever he wants and there's no waiting period. He could receive an offer that he likes and sign on the dotted line as soon as the moratorium is lifted. We can't wait for him to receive offers. We can't take a patient approach to re-signing him. If we want to keep Hendo, we have to move quickly because there simply aren't that many shooting guards available. He's a starting quality guard, and he's going to get a starting quality offer.

The difference between Crabbe's situation and Hendo's situation is that we might be able to use the cap space before matching Crabbe's offer. If Hendo receives an offer, we will have to match or exceed right away.

 

Hendo is better right now for sure, but the UFA status and his big cap hold makes his situation tricky. Crabbe is a 2nd round RFA, meaning his cap hold is next to nothing, and we can match any deal. Olshey can go out and sign a big FA and match Crabbe afterwards. My fear with Hendo is that Olshey is still chasing Howard/Horford/Parsons/Whoever while Hendo secures a nice deal with another team and just leaves. All players like to feel like they're a priority, so if a team goes balls to the walls for Hendo from the beginning I wouldn't blame him for not waiting.

My BIGGEST fear is that Olshey strikes out on everyone, AND Hendo is gone by the time he strikes out. Then we really are shit out of luck.

 

Oh I get it, and it is indeed a dilemma in my book but I cant seem to use this as a reason to not try to keep Hendo. I think he has fit in very well and seems to be part of the big picture.
Maybe we just offer him the 8-10 mill and tell him he cant wait. Sign now or its off the table in two days... I dunno. Thats kinda sleazy sounding to me... tough one for sure, but im not willing to actively just let him go without conversations about being part of the big picture and taking a little less to help make us contenders.

 

Noah was all motor. At his age and injury history, I agree.

 

I hear ya and agree with everything but the NO part.

NO is the best car salesman in the biz. No way he strikes out on every pitch.

 

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If you give him 10 million, and then Crabbe and Harkless get something similar, that's all our money. So you have essentially forgone any other free agent acquisition to keep Hendo at a spot where we're already pretty deep. I guess that's fine if you're happy with our roster as it is.

 

I don't want both Crabbe and Hendo. I think its one or the other. They are too similar overall and I likes Hendo's athleticism and dribble penetration much better than Crabbes. I think we take the Crabbe money and give it to Horford.

 

I know Harkless has been playing well recently, but if he gets 10 million a year (even at the inflated cap) averaging 6/3 on the season....whoooo boy, I'm not sure I like the direction salaries are going. Maybe if he breaks out completely in the playoffs...

 

He's another wrinkle, if teams know that we're going to match, they will be less likely to throw an offer at Crabbe. We didn't make an offer to Kanter until later in free agency. Since Hendo is a UFA, teams won't have any reservations about throwing deals at him that he will either accept or reject. Maybe we could do a sign-and-trade with Crabbe though.

 

Yes!!! sign and trade for who though?

 

I'm not sure what the current rules are for that kind of scenario. They don't have happen very often anymore.

 

When considering sign and trades, are we allowing the bar to be too low? What percentage of a chance does anyone think we could sign and trade leonard and Crabbe, along with Kaman and money for Anthony Davis? Probably not enough, but if they don't think its working (which it isnt) then maybe we get him for less?

 

That has zero chance of happening. They would want Dame at the minimum for Davis.

 

How about Kaman, sign and trade Crabbe, Leonard and CJ?

Hendo takes CJ's spot and we go get Derozen to come off the bench?


Man i'm really reaching now....

Me, like eveyrone here.. is REALLY itching to just figure out the answer!!!!

 

Yeah good point. This thread could be renamed;

"My guess for Portland's free agent is LeBron, Durant, Horford."

 

The Pelicans consider Davis to be one of the 10 best players in the league. Maybe top 5 if he's healthy.

No combination of CJ/Crabbe/Leonard/ or Kaman will get that done.

 

We will still have money this year; but the concern needs to be more about 2 years from now. CJ likely gets a max extension. Plumlee will be eligible for an extension. As you said Crabbe and Hendo will get big raises. Dame's contract is going to be above the max if he is all-NBA. The cap goes down a few million after all these increases. Neil has a history of being prudent with team salary especially on role players; which everyone outside DameCJ have been.

I'm sure we'd give Durant/Horford stars the max; but outside the unlikely studs signing here Neil's history lends me to think if we add anyone it will be close to MLE level than $10+ million. He prefers to go after the diamond in the rough.

 

Man your such a buzzkill. lol

CJ/Crabbe/Leonard isn't a good prospective future package?

I think he might be starting to enter the DMC talks. NO just isn't performing and their front office doesn't know how to put a team together around him. I think they might just do something as stupid as I suggest.