Politics My libertarian view on banning abortion

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  1. Chris Craig

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    ? What is the verse?
     
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    I didn't ask if it was mentioned, I asked if a judgment was provided about homosexuality--i.e. the rightness or wrongness of it.

    If so, can you provide me the passage? Because I'm unaware of any such judgment.
     
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    It's why I said joy including those around you ….not in a serial killers toolbox
     
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    I would say, using what is contained in the other parts of the bible, that those 2 items would fall under the different commandments. Don't murder and don't commit adultery (adultery meaning sex outside of God's definition of marriage).
     
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    Perception perception
     
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    Back at you! Civil discourse is the best!
     
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    Being gay is no adultery. Adultery is sleeping with another person if your married...hence thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife.

    I don't see it as murder.

    But, that's me. And you are you. And its all good
     
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    Ditto. It's fun to have the conversation.
     
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    Check out Romans 1: starting in verse 26 - 32. 1 Corinthians 6: 9-11; 1 Timothy 1: 8-11
     
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    The word used for adultery in the Hebrew also means sex outside of God's definition of marriage.
     
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    Ok...and where is God's definition?
     
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    Again, Christians believe that God used men to write the Bible, they were inspired by the Holy Spirit, so the Bible is God's actual Word. I have to believe that, if I didn't I would be a fool to believe in a man made book, claiming to know God's thoughts and laws. I understand my logic doesn't make sense to someone who doesn't believe. If my wife tells me she got impregnated by the Holy Spirit, I aint believing her one bit. But because God tells me in the Bible I do believe it about Mary. And God knows this. That is why he had to to send an angel straight up to Joseph to convince him that his wife truly was impregnated by the Holy Spirit, not by another person.
     
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    Genesis Chapter 2 verse 24. Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
     
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    I've always liked the idea that every living entity we can perceive is part of what folks call "God" but that somewhere along the line we forgot we're actually connected through this and part of it. What I don't trust are the politics of religious movements and the accuracy of human interpretations of knowledge throughout history...the storytellers...they're like journalists or anybody ...flawed. The law that governs me is my inner traffic light...green light..go for it...yellow light...be really carefull and look around...red light...stop everything and take another path without drawing attention.
     
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    So having sex with someone beside the person you are married to?
     
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    I've said on here before that I am a Christian, and in many ways's I agree with tb18.
    I don't have anything all that thought-provoking to add to this conversation.

    I would like to say that I do find abortion bothers me, especially mid/late term. I very strongly believe that it isn't my place, or the churches place to dictate laws to people who either don't believe in God at all or believe in a different god. I think people should vote with their consciences sure, but I think it's proven throughout history that any ideology religious or secular that has dictated to its people laws in such a manner is dangerous not just for them but for the safety of other countries too.

    We can go round and round about what is a "sin" and what isn't and all that but ultimately to me, Christianity is about Loving people, and whatever "Judgement" God has for people is up to him, the ultimate worst part of this to me isn't abortion or homosexuality, it's how many Christians don't love people, and judge them and treat them wrong, and want them punished. It's sick that in so-called, "Christian" states racism is such a problem, and hate for those who don't meet their moral code is so high.

    For the record. I don't own a gun, I'm not telling people how to live their life, I try to respect everyone in this forum and treat you all with respect even when I know we disagree.
     
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    According to God we should only have sex with our husband or wife (one man, one woman) in the context of marriage. This verse is in the context of God creating Adam and Eve.
     
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    He said it better than I can.
     
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    Well said
     
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    How about guns in the hands of people we know shouldn't have them? Suppose those people go on to commit murder, do we then prosecute those who voted against any kind of gun control as accessories to the crime?
     

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