MY New Main Concern....

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Orion Bailey, Feb 11, 2016.

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Will the Blazers try to win now because of our surprise season, or will they continue to think long

  1. Blazers will make moves to win now

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  2. Blaszers will only make moves for the long term

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  3. Blazers will let the cake bake and not make any moves

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  4. I dont know, this season has been so crazy, anything can happen and I'm okay with it.

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  1. Stevenson

    Stevenson Old School

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    Woj recently did an hour podcast interview with Olshey. I listened to the whole thing. Very interesting. My main takeaway is that this is one very smart guy who is always thinking long-term.
     
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    Every year it's the same old shit. Trade deadline rolls around and someone creates a thread to discuss if the team needs a trade or not. Seems like every year the team gets hot around this time and so everyone pussys out and falls in love with the team. Then by the time the playoffs roll around the damn team goes cold. If we do make the playoffs it's likely the Blazers get bounced. So let's keep the same fucking strategy and let the cake bake!
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Arent you the person always asking for a trade, or making trades... why would you of ALL people be mad that people are talking about trades?
     
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    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    One of them kind of HAS to be. The Grizz are the 5th spot, the Rockets 9. Even if we are in, no scenario outside of a SAC, DEN or NO making up 10 games on MEM in 28 games has them both missing the playoffs, and HOU can, by playing only slightly better, beat out one of us, UTH and DAL. It's an order of magnitude more likely that both make the playoffs than neither.
     
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    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    not as sweet as staying at 7 and beating SAS.
     
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    I'm not mad at people talking about trades, usually that's all that it is. Seems like this team is always young and the cake is always baking at about 350 degrees.
     
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    When is the cake going to bake in the playoffs?
     
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    You are absolutely correct on one thing: if we do make the playoffs it's likely we get bounced, since 15 of the 16 teams that get in don't win. Then again, you can't win if you don't play (brought to you by Spirit Mountain Casino!).

    But I'm confused about which strategy you think we do the same every year.
    Last year: Afflalo and Gee for Barton and our 1st. 51-31, lost to MEM 4-1
    2013-14: 54-28, #5 seed, The Shot to win 4-2 vs. HOU, lost to SAS 4-1
    2012-13: Picked up Eric Maynor by dumping Ronnie Price. 33-49, no playoffs.
    2011-12: Camby for Thabeet, Flynn and a 2nd. Crash for the Dame Lotto pick. 28-38, no playoffs
    2010-11: Dante, Joel and Marks for Crash Wallace. 48-24, lost to DAL 4-2
    2009-10: Camby for Blanky and Outlaw, 50-32, #6 seed, lost 4-2 to PHX
    2008-09: Diogu for Ruffin. 54–28, #4 seed, lost to HOU 4-2
    2007-08: Taurean Green to get Von Wafer. Ended up 41-41, no playoffs.

    So we've a) Let it Bake (relatively) and made the playoffs in 2008-09, 2013-14. We've b) "Gone for It!!" and made the playoffs in 2009-10 and 2010-11 and last year. We've c) Let it Bake and missed the playoffs in 2007-08 and 2012-13. We've d) Sold Off Veterans for Picks and missed the playoffs in 2011-12.

    Which ones are you pissed about, or think are our go-to at Trade Deadline Day? I could see us doing any of the 4 this year and it wouldn't surprise me.
     
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    It's tough, also, since I haven't seen this team play. But if I were GM, I would be very careful about trading away even role players from this team (aside from Kaman). Here's why:

    Just about everyone bought into Dame's "All in Together!" thing, starting with the summer trip. Everyone seems to be knowing their roles and growing into them. The results have been good since before Christmas. Now, will they peter out like the 13-game streak team in 2007-08? Maybe. But we have a good mix of young players playing hard, and will have max cap space this summer. We haven't signed our young guys to extensions (aside from Dame, obvs) , so there are no poison pills. If someone makes a sweetheart offer for CJ (or Meyers?) this summer NO can decide then. I just think that you ride out this season the best you can, give everyone warm fuzzies all year long about "team" and "togetherness" and "culture"
     
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    I remember very vividly Olshey talking about how they had a decent team with Elton Brand's Clippers and how they constantly tried to patch that team so they could make a magical jump to contender and how that was a big mistake that he won't make again.
     
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    Mehh.. Semantics man. :) For that matter then GS isnt a playoff team. HAHAHA. Come on bro, I know your more level headed than that. :)

    Exactly!!!
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Pretty damn sweet. I don't fear the Flop Show or the Blunder or The Grizz. Bring 'em on!
     
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    HomerLovesKoolAid I have a well-known member.

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    I'll tell you what, that Kim Kardashian could clear some space in the paint. The NBA hasn't seen a rebounding ass like that since Wes Unseld.
     
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    So you just said what I said you were angry about. Nothing out of the norm for you, not getting it. It's fine.
     
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    You just semanticed my semantics. It's why I put the caveat in parentheses. Unless they are GS, SA, or anyone that has a 99% chance or higher...
     
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    Mmmmm, not really though. You said clinched a spot. not 99% chance. Neither GS or SA have clinched a spot.

    Memphis will make the playoffs. Count on it.
     
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    What are people's definition of "Letting the Cake Bake." It seems to me that it means not disrupting chemistry by making trades for a substantial period of time - like 2 years.

    IMHO, we can't possibly be "Letting it Bake" because we just flipped over half our roster 9 months ago. Let's not complain about Baking until we have the same starters for at a very minimum of 2 years - but it should really be 3. We've had the same starters for TWO games
    What are people's definition of "Letting the Cake Bake." It seems to me that it means not disrupting chemistry by making trades for a substantial period of time - like 2 years.

    IMHO, we can't possibly be "Letting it Bake" because we just flipped over half our roster 9 months ago. Let's not complain about Baking until we have the same starters for at a very minimum of 2 years - but it should really be 3. We've had the same starters for TWO games, assuming Harkless has now supplanted Vonleh.

    Not making a move at the deadline is NOT equal to "Letting the Cake Bake."
     
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    So if this is your "new" main concern then what was your "old" main concern?
     
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    Common sense. *sigh* Do I really need to account for common sense?
     
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    That I was wrong about this team and they really suck like many thought. ;)
     

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